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My dear chap, what have you Colonials done with our language?
Please can we have it back, preferably intact and devoid of your ever increasing ruinations.
It's becoming awfully tricky to decipher what that chap on Kennedy Ground is saying, heaven knows how the noodle slurpers north of the border (No, not the Canadians, I mean the ones just on the other side of Lok Ma Chau) cope with trying to understand the poor diction, colloquialisms and racing commentary speed of instructions.
Please can we have it back, preferably intact and devoid of your ever increasing ruinations.
It's becoming awfully tricky to decipher what that chap on Kennedy Ground is saying, heaven knows how the noodle slurpers north of the border (No, not the Canadians, I mean the ones just on the other side of Lok Ma Chau) cope with trying to understand the poor diction, colloquialisms and racing commentary speed of instructions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIaiW1XrzxA
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I heard the term 'whale' years ago during a visit to Anchorage Tower when a 747 was landing. Maybe it was just a fluke.
I'll get me hat and coat...
I'll get me hat and coat...
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Hardly fair Curtain Rod; the American commitment (and losses) in WW1 and 2 can hardly be disputed, and we should just be grateful they brought American might, muscle, and their unrivalled industrial complex to the party in the 20th century; or we'd all be wearing lederhosen and goose stepping down the Strand. To say nothing of what would have happened to every sort of minority you can name, Synti, Roma, Jews etc etc.
Now the question is what happened post Roosevelt/ Eisenhower ? No longer the same wars, not even the same type of war anymore. So acting as the words' policemen has become ever more problematical.
Now, a similar list of Brit F@@K UPS would be interesting. I think there are very few countries on the planet that we havent tried to invade/ piss off/intervene. Usually disastrously. Suez ? Basra ?
Don't worry, our friends over the border will be finished with their plans for the South China Sea quite soon, and then we can all stand back and watch the games commence.
Now the question is what happened post Roosevelt/ Eisenhower ? No longer the same wars, not even the same type of war anymore. So acting as the words' policemen has become ever more problematical.
Now, a similar list of Brit F@@K UPS would be interesting. I think there are very few countries on the planet that we havent tried to invade/ piss off/intervene. Usually disastrously. Suez ? Basra ?
Don't worry, our friends over the border will be finished with their plans for the South China Sea quite soon, and then we can all stand back and watch the games commence.
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Rod,
Would you be speaking your precious English language were it not for the US? A little gratitude for all those who died to make that possible would be nice. But no, in typical Euro snowflake entitlement fashion, you just assume everything is automatic and free. Just go ahead and take a knee next time you get a chance. That’ll show ‘em.
Would you be speaking your precious English language were it not for the US? A little gratitude for all those who died to make that possible would be nice. But no, in typical Euro snowflake entitlement fashion, you just assume everything is automatic and free. Just go ahead and take a knee next time you get a chance. That’ll show ‘em.
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It is not due to the lack of the US having the best military in the world. If we were being honest, the US could wipe out all of man from the face of the planet. No doubt so could the Ruskies and Chicoms.
I think the political class is not at all interested in winning or ending any of the engagements the US finds itself in. That would be bad for business. The war business has been very good. In all honesty the US doesn’t need any of our allies. I think it’s more to spread the cost and the wealth around.
As far as RT goes. The US must do things the way they do it. Otherwise the frequencies would be even more jammed.
I think the political class is not at all interested in winning or ending any of the engagements the US finds itself in. That would be bad for business. The war business has been very good. In all honesty the US doesn’t need any of our allies. I think it’s more to spread the cost and the wealth around.
As far as RT goes. The US must do things the way they do it. Otherwise the frequencies would be even more jammed.
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Pilots on the other fleets will do everything they can to oppose ending up on freighter or doing anything to help out the ever changing roster on the freighter fleet. Though they’ll blow the trumpet of unity 24/7. You’re basically a sub group of the AOA that’s stuck in a corner. With the lights off. And the bulb removed. One of those corners where the spare chairs and spare desks accumulate.
But they’ll all say they care.
But they’ll all say they care.
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CR. Americans are great people, but suffer from a myopic view of their own importance. And suffer from a complete lack of understanding of history and other cultures. That won't change in our lifetime.
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Instead, we anglos a left with our masterful interpretations of famous French literature as famously seen here....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBl86cyUpvM
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CR,
You like to mention “with help”, but what you fail to mention is that the US does the vast majority of the heavy lifting in nearly every conflict on your list. So is it the brilliant Admirals, Generals from non-US participants that have made the difference? Our leadership just can’t cut it? Or maybe it’s the non-US troops that have a multiplying affect? Perhaps non-US military hardware is the key, clearly superior?
You like to mention “with help”, but what you fail to mention is that the US does the vast majority of the heavy lifting in nearly every conflict on your list. So is it the brilliant Admirals, Generals from non-US participants that have made the difference? Our leadership just can’t cut it? Or maybe it’s the non-US troops that have a multiplying affect? Perhaps non-US military hardware is the key, clearly superior?
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I find it laughable that non US folks have to constantly bash us US folks.
Lets drop it and focus on something we can do something about. Like protecting our contract from the ilk of the world.
Lets drop it and focus on something we can do something about. Like protecting our contract from the ilk of the world.
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I try to enthusiastically embrace the diverse nationalities who contribute to the discourse on this forum.
I've always said that nobody does a marching band or government paperwork better than the Brits.
And no one can make training more tedious and pedantic than the Ozmates.
Sadly, the overseas obsession with everything American is not reciprocated.
I don't think many American pilots worry too much about how they do it in Hong Kong. But, having been through similar battles myself in years past, I have followed the Cathay pilots' struggle for esteem and financial security with interest for a couple of decades now. I've walked both the picket line and the unemployment line more than once myself.
I remember when the (53 or so) CX 49'ers were sacked and the HKAOA declared a 'hiring ban'.
Maybe naively, I felt more should have been done in response to the firings. In America such an action would shut down any union airline and many non-union carriers as well in my opinion.
Perhaps you feel the sacking of your colleagues deserves a hiring ban for others while continuing to train and accept upgrades yourselves.
I'll certainly honor the hiring band. I could never pass the tests or afford the cut in pay. However, I agree with others here that if you're not willing to do more yourselves for your fallen comrades, your threats of name calling to outsiders will sound hollow indeed.
Anyway, please prove me wrong and take the bull by the horns!
I'll certainly honor the hiring band. I could never pass the tests or afford the cut in pay. However, I agree with others here that if you're not willing to do more yourselves for your fallen comrades, your threats of name calling to outsiders will sound hollow indeed.
Anyway, please prove me wrong and take the bull by the horns!
As Traffic predicted in 2001:
CX stands on the verge of becoming either the best place to work in the aviation business or a tombstone to human folly.
Years later, the CX situation kinda reminds me of the opening paragraph of Woody Allen's 1979 My Speech to the Graduates:
More than at any other time in history, mankind faces a crossroads. One path leads to despair and utter hopelessness. The other, to total extinction. Let us pray we have the wisdom to choose correctly.