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Whaaaatt. ? OMG is this a nightmare
Another venue to find out what the problem is... she hasn't
figured that out through-
-Forums
-Drink nights at Swire mansions
-Freight Pilot drink nights
-HPE
-AOA negotiations
Was this move covered in the curriculum of the courses she just graduated from??
Anyone who says one word on this venue IS "INSANE". Look up the definition..
Another venue to find out what the problem is... she hasn't
figured that out through--Forums
-Drink nights at Swire mansions
-Freight Pilot drink nights
-HPE
-AOA negotiations
Was this move covered in the curriculum of the courses she just graduated from??
Anyone who says one word on this venue IS "INSANE". Look up the definition..
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Exactly Frog - don't play the game...
Got involved with drink nights - no results
AOA been negotiating for 25+ years - no results
HPE - no results
Surveys - no results
Just what the do you expect from this ?
If she is the only one that registers, maybe then she might get the picture..
Got involved with drink nights - no results
AOA been negotiating for 25+ years - no results
HPE - no results
Surveys - no results
Just what the
do you expect from this ?If she is the only one that registers, maybe then she might get the picture..
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It all Reeks of desperado antics.And it is.
Propaganda to the hilt. It amazes me how many pillocks fall for it, but then again this place has a majority of them, including the 2 777 OZZIE stc’s in support of the x2 SO rule. How is it the majority of Cx trainers haven’t resigned as of yet ? How dumb can you get ? The “custodians” of Cx culture
Blimey we are doomed.
Propaganda to the hilt. It amazes me how many pillocks fall for it, but then again this place has a majority of them, including the 2 777 OZZIE stc’s in support of the x2 SO rule. How is it the majority of Cx trainers haven’t resigned as of yet ? How dumb can you get ? The “custodians” of Cx culture
Blimey we are doomed.
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Exactly Goat
This has to be taken as a joke and if anyone sees it differently, I have swamp land in Florida to sell you.
They (the #SMM) will be splitting a gut laughing if even one of you take this seriously..
They (the #SMM) will be splitting a gut laughing if even one of you take this seriously..
2. Mgt obviously think the ARAPA issue is done and dusted, the HKPA Q&A will be used to sway those on it for 'yes' vote...
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Smart move Anna
So... the DFO is using a site where people can anonymously ask questions of her. What could possibly go wrong?
Quite a bit it seems.....
Ps.... I'm "Darryl S" and so's my wife/husband/LGBTQIA partner (depending on the day of week).
Quite a bit it seems.....
Ps.... I'm "Darryl S" and so's my wife/husband/LGBTQIA partner (depending on the day of week).
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Busyb,
Most people are questioning her honesty. Those that aren't are questioning her honesty are questioning her competence, gender, dietary habits, exercise regime, parentage.... It ain't pretty....
I wager that Dildo won't survive until Monday lunchtime and will be declared a huge success and then quietly go the way of all the landmark projects under her reign... 3-man, EFB, RP termination, Age Discrimination, Clause 7, Kincare, EFP averaging in NY, air fresheners, Illy coffee, Equalettes, psychological rest, A50s....
Most people are questioning her honesty. Those that aren't are questioning her honesty are questioning her competence, gender, dietary habits, exercise regime, parentage.... It ain't pretty....
I wager that Dildo won't survive until Monday lunchtime and will be declared a huge success and then quietly go the way of all the landmark projects under her reign... 3-man, EFB, RP termination, Age Discrimination, Clause 7, Kincare, EFP averaging in NY, air fresheners, Illy coffee, Equalettes, psychological rest, A50s....
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I think if anything can be learned, the last several years have been (from a management analysis perspective) a prime example of what NOT to do. And has been said will likely be used in textbooks some day of how to destroy a great organization.
Regardless of the hedging and speculation debacles (and I have no idea whether this is a form of money laundering or genuine losses), the airline has hit the pits of productivity decline while incurring cost increases. Most of this is due to incoherent rostering and lack of happy people where they need them (driven largely by the 'continuous reserve' concept which may SEEM to increase flexibility but in reality only collapses rosters--creating an unsolvable puzzle and more work for those overseeing rostering--while at the same time generating the inefficiencies of more peaks and valleys resulting in FTL timeout, increased sickness rates, and large overtime payments as well as from a customer perspective causing more unreliability in cancellations and delays).
AND interjecting uncertainty into the future. ARAPA could have been left well enough alone (as could have RPs and just about everything else). In fact, doing NOTHING would have resulted in a much more productive and happy work force than exists today. Everyone understands 'tough times' but these AREN'T 'tough times.' The airline biz is booming. People are IMHO being told falsehoods as an excuse to chisel away. Chiseling is a VERY bad thing to do; not unlike stiffing a waiter who actually DID go the extra mile for you--simply because you're a cheap bastage. Treating the help well is very important, and is a strong indicator of one's character.
Housing costs (and living costs) in HKG are high. No problem--plenty of opportunities for basings (and following the rules OF a base isn't particularly hard to do but you do have to do it). Yet these have been only used as a token presence (with perhaps an intent as a form of direct entry reserve if things get REALLY bad) and a fleeting carrot. Really COULD be a win-win. Yet somehow these have to be a win-lose to be viable ? WTF ?
In a functional time, contracts normally sit in the drawer with the players having only a vague knowledge of the specifics (knowing alot perhaps about a certain area that they need to in order to do their work, but for the most part being happy simply to show up for work, collect the money, and go home). There are OCCASIONAL glitches which demand mutual resolution--but these are usually worked out with a minimum of fuss. As it stands now, everyone knows about the minutia and every little detail and is basically using it as a club to hit each other with. And when provisions become too burdensome, they are simply ignored through interpretation or imposed away. Not unlike a messy divorce where husband and wife argue over the smallest things and manage to piss everything away in the process--including what might have been a wonderful relationship over many years (and rather than simply part ways over something that isn't working anymore do so filled with anger and resentment that didn't need to be there).
As a manager this is NOT what you want.
The problems and solutions have been well stated over and over. They are not listening and are unlikely to. Plan accordingly.
One works a great deal of one's life. At some point you have to figure out what you want out of life. If this ain't working for ya (or you can't make it work and be happy) it may be time to pull the pin. And if you're just getting started you might ask yourself do you REALLY want to face 20+ more years of this. For those riding it out and retiring soon or just getting started using the place to gain experience and ratings (not unlike a regional) with a plan to move on, more power to ya. Just be careful not to get suckered in and trapped thinking you can make things better than they are--or that future promises will actually come true. Everyone ELSE seems to be making money and booming, yet all we get is gloom and doom and proposed cuts. To me this seems insane.
Regardless of the hedging and speculation debacles (and I have no idea whether this is a form of money laundering or genuine losses), the airline has hit the pits of productivity decline while incurring cost increases. Most of this is due to incoherent rostering and lack of happy people where they need them (driven largely by the 'continuous reserve' concept which may SEEM to increase flexibility but in reality only collapses rosters--creating an unsolvable puzzle and more work for those overseeing rostering--while at the same time generating the inefficiencies of more peaks and valleys resulting in FTL timeout, increased sickness rates, and large overtime payments as well as from a customer perspective causing more unreliability in cancellations and delays).
AND interjecting uncertainty into the future. ARAPA could have been left well enough alone (as could have RPs and just about everything else). In fact, doing NOTHING would have resulted in a much more productive and happy work force than exists today. Everyone understands 'tough times' but these AREN'T 'tough times.' The airline biz is booming. People are IMHO being told falsehoods as an excuse to chisel away. Chiseling is a VERY bad thing to do; not unlike stiffing a waiter who actually DID go the extra mile for you--simply because you're a cheap bastage. Treating the help well is very important, and is a strong indicator of one's character.
Housing costs (and living costs) in HKG are high. No problem--plenty of opportunities for basings (and following the rules OF a base isn't particularly hard to do but you do have to do it). Yet these have been only used as a token presence (with perhaps an intent as a form of direct entry reserve if things get REALLY bad) and a fleeting carrot. Really COULD be a win-win. Yet somehow these have to be a win-lose to be viable ? WTF ?
In a functional time, contracts normally sit in the drawer with the players having only a vague knowledge of the specifics (knowing alot perhaps about a certain area that they need to in order to do their work, but for the most part being happy simply to show up for work, collect the money, and go home). There are OCCASIONAL glitches which demand mutual resolution--but these are usually worked out with a minimum of fuss. As it stands now, everyone knows about the minutia and every little detail and is basically using it as a club to hit each other with. And when provisions become too burdensome, they are simply ignored through interpretation or imposed away. Not unlike a messy divorce where husband and wife argue over the smallest things and manage to piss everything away in the process--including what might have been a wonderful relationship over many years (and rather than simply part ways over something that isn't working anymore do so filled with anger and resentment that didn't need to be there).
As a manager this is NOT what you want.
The problems and solutions have been well stated over and over. They are not listening and are unlikely to. Plan accordingly.
One works a great deal of one's life. At some point you have to figure out what you want out of life. If this ain't working for ya (or you can't make it work and be happy) it may be time to pull the pin. And if you're just getting started you might ask yourself do you REALLY want to face 20+ more years of this. For those riding it out and retiring soon or just getting started using the place to gain experience and ratings (not unlike a regional) with a plan to move on, more power to ya. Just be careful not to get suckered in and trapped thinking you can make things better than they are--or that future promises will actually come true. Everyone ELSE seems to be making money and booming, yet all we get is gloom and doom and proposed cuts. To me this seems insane.
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Spot on Shep
But do the newbies know it?
Do all new joinersactually have a friggen clue what you ACTUALLY mean by the above post
Do they realise senior stc’s in this company are actually falling over themselves to endorse x2 SO’s
Do they realise their upgrade times are going to double?
Shep it might be time to turn those excellent english skills into something that they will really understand on the wannabees forum.
But do the newbies know it?
Do all new joinersactually have a friggen clue what you ACTUALLY mean by the above post
Do they realise senior stc’s in this company are actually falling over themselves to endorse x2 SO’s
Do they realise their upgrade times are going to double?
Shep it might be time to turn those excellent english skills into something that they will really understand on the wannabees forum.
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Do the Newbies know it ?
It's not rocket science, all you need is a calculator and a simple spreadsheet..
Housing + Food + Medical + Children + Schools + Holiday++ = X
If they can't figure this out in about 1 minute then - too bad so sad...
Housing + Food + Medical + Children + Schools + Holiday++ = X
If they can't figure this out in about 1 minute then - too bad so sad...
You forgot to mention retiring captains getting their 4 bars 🤔
Busyb,
Most people are questioning her honesty. Those that aren't are questioning her honesty are questioning her competence, gender, dietary habits, exercise regime, parentage.... It ain't pretty....
I wager that Dildo won't survive until Monday lunchtime and will be declared a huge success and then quietly go the way of all the landmark projects under her reign... 3-man, EFB, RP termination, Age Discrimination, Clause 7, Kincare, EFP averaging in NY, air fresheners, Illy coffee, Equalettes, psychological rest, A50s....
Most people are questioning her honesty. Those that aren't are questioning her honesty are questioning her competence, gender, dietary habits, exercise regime, parentage.... It ain't pretty....
I wager that Dildo won't survive until Monday lunchtime and will be declared a huge success and then quietly go the way of all the landmark projects under her reign... 3-man, EFB, RP termination, Age Discrimination, Clause 7, Kincare, EFP averaging in NY, air fresheners, Illy coffee, Equalettes, psychological rest, A50s....