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CX defers five A350 deliveries, switches six to smaller model

Old 14th Sep 2017, 08:16
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CX defers five A350 deliveries, switches six to smaller model

Cathay Pacific defers five A350 deliveries, switches six to smaller model - Business Insider

BTW... Hong Kong Airlines... looking for HKCAD A350 pilots... just in case.. LOL

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Old 14th Sep 2017, 08:23
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And yet their crying over yield and pilot costs !
Larger aircraft, crewed by the same numbers, more punters improved yield, especially to slot limited continents. Or am I missing something?
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Old 14th Sep 2017, 08:39
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Out of curiosity, does anyone know how much is the sign on bonus?
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Old 14th Sep 2017, 09:25
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Out of curiosity, does anyone know how much is the sign on bonus?
heard will give CN 150K & FO 80K on completion of HKA training !
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Old 14th Sep 2017, 10:53
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If they offered CX pilots current CX package plus 3% they could solve their staffing problems and shut down the competition all in one go.

Airline Managers are much dumber than we give them credit for.
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Old 14th Sep 2017, 11:00
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That's the unintended consequence of further pay concessions....a point is reached where it would be easier for our competitors to poach our pilots...

Maximize profits this year and lose a bundle next year. It's like hedging!
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Old 14th Sep 2017, 12:09
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150/80k sign on bonus is a bit light
Some are making that in one month of overtime...
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Old 14th Sep 2017, 12:13
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Originally Posted by Sqwak7700 View Post
If they offered CX pilots current CX package plus 3% they could solve their staffing problems and shut down the competition all in one go.

Airline Managers are much dumber than we give them credit for.
The most truth I have read on here in a long time. That would be something to watch!
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Old 14th Sep 2017, 12:25
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Just how many pilots are HKA looking for? I doubt it would cause CX to shut up shop.
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Old 19th Sep 2017, 20:49
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Just count How many pilots left hka lol, why?
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Old 20th Sep 2017, 08:35
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Sqwak 7700. Last year the company offered much more than current contract plus 3%, but you and the other 51% wanted more so you voted it down. Now you will get nothing. Who is dumb?

And by-the-way, how much is it costing us all if upgrades are delayed? Why are some of you so keen on seeing the airline shrink? would that be good for us?

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Old 20th Sep 2017, 09:08
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Ipad, it wasn't about money.

The inflation adjustment on HKPA and pay was seen as adequate by most.

It was about us paying for it by reducing manning level.

I think we would all be happy now with the previous TA, minus the 3-pilots "trial".

Unfortunately it seems 49% of the members would be happy to work more for the rest of their career in exchange for a 5% raise.

Let there be a choice, then. New 92h contract for the same pay raise. Would you sign it?
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Old 20th Sep 2017, 09:29
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Management were amused by the 3 pilot trial as there was a queue of pilots requesting to do the flights. And in the end the company decided that most of the flights didn't work for the company. i.e. was not a problem for us in the end and actually that should have been obvious.
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Old 23rd Sep 2017, 03:08
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Originally Posted by Sqwak7700 View Post
If they offered CX pilots current CX package plus 3% they could solve their staffing problems and shut down the competition all in one go.

Airline Managers are much dumber than we give them credit for.
Maybe they don’t want you! They’re smarter than you think 😎
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Old 23rd Sep 2017, 03:57
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Originally Posted by Below the glide View Post
Maybe they don’t want you! They’re smarter than you think 😎
Very unlikely judging from what we read and hear all the time. HKA seems to take all the pilots that leave Cathay, and let's face it, neither HKA nor CPA are in a position to turn willing warm bodies away.

CPA is now recruiting DFOs, who do you think that is targeting?

So you better wisen up and do it quickly or your competition will get a head start.
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