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Old 1st Sep 2017, 13:24
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Hong Kong Airlines A350

The first of many A350's arrived in HKG today. Looked actually very good in their livery.

Well done HKA, crew sounded as a delivery crew.
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Old 2nd Sep 2017, 11:58
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crew sounded as a delivery crew.
And how does a delivery crew sound?
Could you hear them going "where tf's my curser gone?", or, "my OIS has frozen again!", or you just mean slick and professional?
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French accent peut-etre.
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Funny guys. More importantly though, the HKA pilot supply pool (CX) is on the verge of making the final adjustment (opening the floodgates) to supply crew for all foreseeable expansion plans. Maybe we should help out by giving them some slots too.
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Awaiting details with sincere interest. Thank you.
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Maybe the HKAOA should be negotiating with HKA instead of CX!
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Originally Posted by 777300ER
....the HKA pilot supply pool (CX)....
Exactly right. Guess where all the RA55 CX guys with 350 ratings will go if the company lets them go? Straight to HKA. Including C&T.

Gifting our experienced operators straight to the competition. Cathay. You can't make this up.
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If the company lets them go? Are they indentured servants? Oh, wait. Don't answer that.

Is CX giving RA55 guys 350 ratings?
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And all those RA55 guys had the option to take RA65 but declined to do so to keep their travel fund (just as I did)

Now they are approaching 55 and complaining that they can't stay, too bad boys, you made your choice. Have fun at HKA, I'll be on a beach somewhere.
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Dessert Rat. As someone else pointed out...anyone can leave at anytime. Not sure what you are implying with your statement.

Dilbert. The RA55 guys chose not to be blackmailed by the company (unlike the rest of us who folded immediately). The fact that the company is being bloody minded and stubborn on insisting they leave, just when we have a genuine pilot shortage developing is evidence of a small minded and myopic leadership, the same leadership that has burdened this airline with almost unsolvable problems. I don't think your sarcasm is warranted or appreciated. As a matter of fact, it's hurtful and immature. It will be fitting if they all take their skills and ratings to HKA, helping that airline grow and prosper at the very expense of the airline losing their experience. Another CX own goal.

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CX does not have a problem with expensive senior pilots leaving, in fact they welcome it, as they will be eventually replaced by the cheap ones that our trainers are happily churning out, diluting their own contracts. That is also an 'own goal'.
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Old 3rd Sep 2017, 00:54
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CX does have a problem with senior pilots leaving, at an ever increasing rate. Even more importantly, the company's insurer does as well. But I do appreciate your regular message that the C and T's are the real problem, and not our management (and I eagerly await your AOA motion to have the C and T's resign...which I will do as soon as such a motion is passed. Of course, in the mean time you could stop doing your job for CX as well, to prove your 'integrity').
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As a regular reader of the AOA updates, I don't see any particular uptick in the rate of senior resignations. And the few I have spoken to after having submitted their resignations were not exactly begged to stay on by management, much less offered any inducement to stay.

It was more like, 'Don't let the door hit you on the ass on your way out'.
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Any truth in the rumour that HKA are about to offer a sign on bonus for HK licensed and rated drivers?
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All I can say is many aspects of what happens here can be summed up in the wisdom of the epistle to the Galatians:

"for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap"
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There will be a few leaving CX, prob the early retirees. A few locals from KA to the 330 or 320.

For the rest, why give up 90% schooling subsidy, 100k housing (b scale)
OT, and union protection for the unknown?

Ultimately HKA is for the young wannabe not the mid career types from CX or for that matter ka. A face full of jet lag, thats all.
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....until HKA realise that, by hiring CX crew, they can expand effortlessly, and screw up CX at the same time. Then the panic will start in earnest (and it's already started on the 3/9th floors....). And Shep, you are absolutely correct in your scriptural quote. Thank you. A lesson to all here and the decisions they make.
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Originally Posted by Shep69
All I can say is many aspects of what happens here can be summed up in the wisdom of the epistle to the Galatians:

"for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap"
Oh, the irony doesn't come much thicker than that. Thank you for a good laugh Shep! Try Matthew 7:2-5. See how that shoe fits.
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Old 3rd Sep 2017, 06:53
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Cxorcist...what is your point? That Shep should not be judgmental lest he be judged?

Is so, that truly is ironic...
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