Is the Big Bhudda a Big Magnet?!

[Trafalgar]

...anything is now possible (and probable) in the new world of 'snowflake' aviation (also known as 'brushwinger' flight kindergarten).

[Oasis]

Get off your high horse, Trafalgar, or you might find yourself in trouble one day due to your delusions of grandeur.

[Trafalgar]

It's always nice to be recognised

[Weary traveller]

Delusions of grandeur? Are you kidding? Traf has a very valid point. It helps explain why a KA flight from two hours away diverts after a couple of holding patterns because either: A, the snowflake in the cockpit didn't have the foresight or balls to put on the appropriate amount of fuel or B, the snowflake in OPS didn't put the appropriate amount of fuel on the flight plan so that snowflake A didn't have to divert with FPF. Heaven help us all.

[geh065]

Originally Posted by Toruk Macto

One pilot makes a mistake and we all have to level off at 5000 or 9000 for next 30 years when higher is available, incase we head 130 ?

Half of the tedious stuff we do in the sim is because one pilot made a mistake and crashed their plane. The whole cockpit door procedure resulted from incidents that happened on a single day. Its the way aviation works. Someone makes a mistake and we all live with the procedural changes.

[betpump5]

A La Air France. Which is now why we have to narrate a passage as long as War and Peace before we actually start doing anything about an unusual attitude/stall.

We all know how this will play out one day when a guy with very little SA or who is more focused on 'mouth music' mucks up a stall recovery.

[LongTimeInCX]

Stuff crapping on with some verbose diatribe, how about we just fly the damn jet out of the stall like we were, or should have been, taught in our past lives.
It's not that hard!!

[crwkunt roll]

It's not that hard!!

Seems to be the mantra of some of the entitled ones.
Remember, we are also now not permitted to change to QNH when descending until we reach TL, as one person made a mistake and levelled off.
Yes, that is how dumbed down we are now.

[oriental flyer]

If they taught these delicate flowers of the Y-me generation the correct procedure to effect a correct recovery from a stall during basic training they could then apply the same principals to a big shiny jet . i.e. level the wings ,lower the nose and add thrust to recover flying speed ,they might even have to do all three things at once it's really not that hard . If you have to recite war and peace before taking action confusion will reign
Added to which you may not have that much time ,AF was dropping at over 10,000 ft / min

[IcanCmyhousefromhere]

Might help them if you could at least write the actions in the correct order here!

[Sand Man]

Remember, we are also now not permitted to change to QNH when descending until we reach TL

Where is this stated?

[iceman50]

Sand Man

crwkunt roll got it wrong, perhaps he is dumbed down, no change in the OPS A.

[skkm]

Originally Posted by iceman50

Sand Man

crwkunt roll got it wrong, perhaps he is dumbed down, no change in the OPS A.

B team isn't allowed to any more per new FCOM3 NP.120.2.

[iceman50]

Interesting, so what takes priority the FCOM or OPS A, another job for the lawyers.

[crwkunt roll]

No way! Different fleets doing the same things differently? "Team A" will no doubt have another procedure change shortly.

[PEI_3721]

Is the Buddha in the EGPWS obstacle data base as a separate object, or only shown as high terrain in the overall terrain database?
I don't have access to either at the moment.

Which airlines have / have not activated the obstacle mode / updated the databases.