Hong Kong Airlines (HKA)
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I have been told that the pilots were expecting a month's salary for CNY, however they received nothing. Cabin crew were expecting around 3-4 months, but instead received 1 month.
Apparently the a350 due end of February may be delayed and morale on the line has dropped significantly, with many pilots now actively looking to leave.
The Los Angeles, Vancouver, and Auckland routes are not doing particularly well, and apparently with Hainan in dire straits the expansion may be all but over.
They did just receive a very old a330! It's from Avalon so a Hainan Group of companies. The a330-343, they were expecting in December will not come as the lessor did not want to take the risk. It is parked in Tarbes.
I have also been told that the company is not in trouble as it is profitable, however without the backing of Hainan it will not be able to expand to all the destinations they want to serve.
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Apparently the a350 due end of February may be delayed and morale on the line has dropped significantly, with many pilots now actively looking to leave.
The Los Angeles, Vancouver, and Auckland routes are not doing particularly well, and apparently with Hainan in dire straits the expansion may be all but over.
They did just receive a very old a330! It's from Avalon so a Hainan Group of companies. The a330-343, they were expecting in December will not come as the lessor did not want to take the risk. It is parked in Tarbes.
I have also been told that the company is not in trouble as it is profitable, however without the backing of Hainan it will not be able to expand to all the destinations they want to serve.
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No worries, Cathay Dragon will take that when Hainan pulls the plug.
The reason the routes are not doing well is cos business travellers don't trust the perceived lower experienced pilots working at HKA. Their perception, but Philippinos, Brazilians and a few Russians isn't a great selling point.
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The reason the routes are not doing well is cos business travellers don't trust the perceived lower experienced pilots working at HKA. Their perception, but Philippinos, Brazilians and a few Russians isn't a great selling point.
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As the poster said, it’s all about perception. Are those concerned businessmen catching flights to Manila for open heart surgery at Ferdinand Marcos public hospital?
You can legislate against xenophobia, but you can’t legislate what’s in someone’s head. (Except maybe in Philipines, Brazil or Russia)
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I am currently working at FlightSafety international as an instructor. I haven’t flown with any regularity since being hired at FlightSafety.I am looking for a job.
If my pass rate was that low I would be fired. It reflects poorly on the instruction. I have NEVER had a client fail on my current airplane.
It brings me to a few questions:
- Why is the failure rate so high? Airmanship,Systems Knowledge, Blown approaches, Crashed ets.
- Where is a good place for me to apply? I need to be an F. O. for a short time to get the ups and down back in my short-term memory but I have 7K TT and plenty of Jet PIC.
- I am looking for F. O. time and a fast upgrade.
Back to this checkairman who is a total crap shoot. (I’m a checkairman) When he says something stupid you respond enthusiastically with “I have heard that before but someone else told me it wasn’t in the manual. Can you show me where that is?” Consider reading up on how to manage a “Yellow” personality before your next encounter.
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If my pass rate was that low I would be fired. It reflects poorly on the instruction. I have NEVER had a client fail on my current aeroplane.
It brings me to a few questions:
It brings me to a few questions:
- Why is the failure rate so high? Airmanship, Systems Knowledge, Blown approaches, Crashed etc.
- Where is a good place for me to apply? I need to be an F. O. for a short time to get the ups and down back in my short-term memory but I have 7K TT and plenty of Jet PIC.
- I am looking for F. O. time and a fast upgrade.
- The reason for the low upgrade success rate is unfortunately subjective. Those who fail say that they were failed unfairly for small things. It's not lack of systems knowledge. My personal guess is lack of Situational Awareness, Communication Skills, Startle Factor, Problem Solving and Decision Making. Google the ICAO Doc 9995, and find the competencies in Appendix 1.
- Good place for a quick upgrade is probably not HKA. Try Vietjet, Whizzair, Lion, Malindo, Cebu Pacific etc.
- Aren't all F/O's? You need to be thinking of what you can offer the airline instead. You'll be duly rewarded if you bring the "right" attitude and be willing to work hard.
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Depends on
1. color of Passport. Preferably the non-Singaporean red
2. if you came from the greatest and the best: MH/MAS
3. The kind of shoe polish you got
4. How well one kisses (insert body part)
4. Which friends u got in management
5. How well one understands nepotism
There are Bolehsian FOs and then there are Napoleon’s FOs!!
Just come here, enjoy the work, and don’t expect too much. When it’s your turn and your file haven’t been mysteriously “overlooked” or bypassed in seniority, just give the course a shot and see what happens!
1. color of Passport. Preferably the non-Singaporean red
2. if you came from the greatest and the best: MH/MAS
3. The kind of shoe polish you got
4. How well one kisses (insert body part)
4. Which friends u got in management
5. How well one understands nepotism
There are Bolehsian FOs and then there are Napoleon’s FOs!!
Just come here, enjoy the work, and don’t expect too much. When it’s your turn and your file haven’t been mysteriously “overlooked” or bypassed in seniority, just give the course a shot and see what happens!
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Somebody mentioned that HKA pays peanuts for STBY.. How do they compensate for other ground duties, incl. simulator training, office duties etc. - or is this all part of "basic salary"? also, do positioning hours count towards productivity hours?
Well, when you have a former Cathay Cat "D", pilot being taken on and bypass very competent pilots to be assistant fleet manager with lightning speed what do you expect.
Cat"D", Cathay, unsuitable for command.
Political appointee only, not based on intelligence and ability.
The bloke's a moron.
The Chinese english assessor, gave a Brit a 4 for English assessment????.
It is a screwed up company, and without Hinan support it will struggle.
But you know mainland, they will not be able to face the embarrassment of such a public humiliation, so they will support it and bring it into the "fold",.
So it will survive, with the morons at the top.
Cat"D", Cathay, unsuitable for command.
Political appointee only, not based on intelligence and ability.
The bloke's a moron.
The Chinese english assessor, gave a Brit a 4 for English assessment????.
It is a screwed up company, and without Hinan support it will struggle.
But you know mainland, they will not be able to face the embarrassment of such a public humiliation, so they will support it and bring it into the "fold",.
So it will survive, with the morons at the top.