Hong Kong Airlines (HKA)
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More evidence of HX in financial trouble, rumour there won't be any bonus for cabin crew this year, I flew into Dublin today and saw two A330 in Hong Kong Airlines liveries in storage.
HNA group of companies have delay deliveries of new aircrafts. Is HX the next Oasis Hong Kong?
HNA group of companies have delay deliveries of new aircrafts. Is HX the next Oasis Hong Kong?
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Terrible news for CX crews if HKA goes under. Based on what I read here, it will take all of less than an hour for CX management to launch a full scale attack on the terms and conditions!
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... and yet CX will be making so much money if HKA goes under that cutting the contract will be very difficult to justify. Such is the nature of economics...
It also doesn’t help CX with the training ban, which combined with the global demand for pilots, is our only true leverage. Hang in there trainers... Do the right things! Colleagues, resist any temptation to join training please...
It also doesn’t help CX with the training ban, which combined with the global demand for pilots, is our only true leverage. Hang in there trainers... Do the right things! Colleagues, resist any temptation to join training please...
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More like a refit or heavy Maintenence by Dublin Aerospace?
Who whould store their new planes in a wet & windy expensive airport when there is endless desert parking in the US? ( which is far from preying eyes!)
No evidence from airbus that HKA are slowing down deliveries , with the 4th A350 arriving after is maiden flight later next month . Their 5th A350 should arrive mid year .
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The mainland Govt. wants to establish HKA as HK's flagship airline. The Swires are already aware of this, ergo they are desperately driving down costs at CX in order to sell the airline. CX is yesterday's news.
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CX is essentially 30% owned directly by the mainland government right? Also 49% partner in another joint venture? Those are fairly solid political connections. Some might say at least as solid as those of HKA...
You don't fabricate massive losses in an attempt to sell the airline.That is nonsensical. They are actively suppressing the share price. CX is a cash cleaning machine for Swire. You think all those cans of coke, clean duvets, ground handling services and HAECO engineers come cheap? They don't.
In the end, It really doesn't matter who owns what. CX flights are full generally. HKA's are too presumably. All the aeroplanes being to delivered to Hong Kong and all those people are going to be flown by somebody. Until the importance of HK is as an aviation hub is reduced (a risk) or the robots take over there will be job security.
You don't fabricate massive losses in an attempt to sell the airline.That is nonsensical. They are actively suppressing the share price. CX is a cash cleaning machine for Swire. You think all those cans of coke, clean duvets, ground handling services and HAECO engineers come cheap? They don't.
In the end, It really doesn't matter who owns what. CX flights are full generally. HKA's are too presumably. All the aeroplanes being to delivered to Hong Kong and all those people are going to be flown by somebody. Until the importance of HK is as an aviation hub is reduced (a risk) or the robots take over there will be job security.
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HX is pretty good for the price actually. The hard product in business class is below CX, but the ticket is about 30% less. It's an interesting point though, if HNA Group as a holding company blows chunks and fails; what happens to the subsidiaries that may or may not be profitable, like Avolon (Irish ops, HK HQ), Hainan Airlines, Capital Airlines, HX, etc...?
Secondly, to me it seems more like the mainland government wants to takeover CX via Air China, and dissolve the CX brand--probably the most iconic HK symbol in the world.
Good thing HSBC kept it's HQ in London then...
Secondly, to me it seems more like the mainland government wants to takeover CX via Air China, and dissolve the CX brand--probably the most iconic HK symbol in the world.
Good thing HSBC kept it's HQ in London then...
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You sure they are in “storage”?
More like a refit or heavy Maintenence by Dublin Aerospace?
Who whould store their new planes in a wet & windy expensive airport when there is endless desert parking in the US? ( which is far from preying eyes!)
No evidence from airbus that HKA are slowing down deliveries , with the 4th A350 arriving after is maiden flight later next month . Their 5th A350 should arrive mid year .
More like a refit or heavy Maintenence by Dublin Aerospace?
Who whould store their new planes in a wet & windy expensive airport when there is endless desert parking in the US? ( which is far from preying eyes!)
No evidence from airbus that HKA are slowing down deliveries , with the 4th A350 arriving after is maiden flight later next month . Their 5th A350 should arrive mid year .
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Hong Kong Airlines set for more ownership changes
https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/n...ership-changes
Can't access the article for free, unfortunately.
Can't access the article for free, unfortunately.
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Yes I has read this article, not sure what it means though.
HNA already sold most of their investments in HK airlines, so my question is, what is different now from the non-profitable pre-HNA HK airlines?
HNA already sold most of their investments in HK airlines, so my question is, what is different now from the non-profitable pre-HNA HK airlines?
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Uncertainty.Thats what it means.
Anyone who’s considering joining at HKA the moment would have to be quite courageous to chuck in a stable position to head east. Unless they have faced redundancy or perhaps divorce.
HNA have the financial muscle . Cathay have the resilience.
I know which one I would feel confident will reign victorious .
And thats before their crews are dealt a bloody nose .
Anyone who’s considering joining at HKA the moment would have to be quite courageous to chuck in a stable position to head east. Unless they have faced redundancy or perhaps divorce.
HNA have the financial muscle . Cathay have the resilience.
I know which one I would feel confident will reign victorious .
And thats before their crews are dealt a bloody nose .
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CX may be resilient, but what's the point if they provide a worthless career for people. Not worth a slice of stale bread anymore. With the faster promotion, at least you will get your command hours years earlier with HKA than at CX. At least then you have marketable skills in the industry. Joining CX now is just a waste of your career, and will ultimately be a decision you will bitterly regret.
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Well, now Emirates and Qatar have lower their requirements for first officer. Pilots no longer need to stopover in the far east to get their wide body type rating to join ME3. It's only a matter of time before things will improve. Even Ryanair recognised BALPA, miracle do exist!
http://www.emiratesgroupcareers.com/pilots/
To join us as a First Officer you should have experience on multi-engine, multi-crew, turboprop and/or jet aircraft, including business jets with:
Minimum of 2000 hrs on MTOW ≥ 20T
OR
Minimum of 3000 hrs on MTOW between 10T & 20T
On top of this you will need to have:
A valid ICAO ATPL (or USA equivalent) with an unrestricted class one medical certificate
Pilots with Frozen ATPL, type rated on Airbus or Boeing, can be invited for the selection process on the proviso that they obtain a full ATPL, if successful, prior to joining.
English language fluency to ICAO English level 4 or above
Flown at least 150 hrs within the last 12 months on an aircraft with MTOW ≥ 10T
http://www.emiratesgroupcareers.com/pilots/
To join us as a First Officer you should have experience on multi-engine, multi-crew, turboprop and/or jet aircraft, including business jets with:
Minimum of 2000 hrs on MTOW ≥ 20T
OR
Minimum of 3000 hrs on MTOW between 10T & 20T
On top of this you will need to have:
A valid ICAO ATPL (or USA equivalent) with an unrestricted class one medical certificate
Pilots with Frozen ATPL, type rated on Airbus or Boeing, can be invited for the selection process on the proviso that they obtain a full ATPL, if successful, prior to joining.
English language fluency to ICAO English level 4 or above
Flown at least 150 hrs within the last 12 months on an aircraft with MTOW ≥ 10T