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Old 9th Jan 2018, 21:56
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HKA Conditions

I thought this thread was supposed to be about working at HKA and providing facts on things like the interview process, what does the sim check consist of, monthly take home pay, helping newcomers get settled, financial assistance etc.

Anybody care to share any of those things.
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Old 11th Jan 2018, 03:42
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Welcome to HK, CX guys always put their sticky beaks into everything.

There’s a long running post on Norwegian Long Haul TnC over on Terms n E. The Poster Direct Bondi made 100s if not 1000s of anti Norwegian posts .
A bit like Trafalgar.

Norwegian have just announced record pax numbers, 50
Plus new routes and a happy bunch of 787 pilots, based over Europe and now the USA.
Good luck Traf, but pilots vote with their own feet , and accept perennial wingers for what they appear to be.
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Old 11th Jan 2018, 05:22
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Well Krone, not sure what your point is. Traf speaks for the majority, of that I can assure you. And as for 'voting with their feet', that is exactly what most CX pilots are planning on doing (some to Norwegian ironically). Btw, Churchill was also considered a 'perennial whinger' just prior to WWII, but what did he know eh? (what's a 'perennial winger'...someone who flies a lot...? ).
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Old 12th Jan 2018, 02:24
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Hainan Airlines the parent of HKA had its shares suspended from trading.
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Old 12th Jan 2018, 04:38
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Hainan sold their shares in HKA to Frontier Investment Partner L.P, and they are no longer the majority shareholder..... Hainan owns only 27% direct now according to local news
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Old 13th Jan 2018, 04:17
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27% Ownership of HKA

Is that now a good or bad thing. I guess depending on who owns the rest. Does it look like HKA may improve dramatically or go down the swanny!
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Old 24th Jan 2018, 03:32
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Any update on the financial situation of HKA with what's happening with HNA ?
Heard they will not get new aircraft anymore ?
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Old 24th Jan 2018, 08:19
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To be honest I am wondering a bit, HKA was there already for some years and wasn't doing very good..My understanding is that the game changer was Hainan.
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Old 25th Jan 2018, 14:25
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HKA is becoming like Emirates with recruitment videos..

https://dms.licdn.com/playback/C5600...4Y90_D3MBwmFSU
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Old 25th Jan 2018, 20:33
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TUNG CHUNG!!

Where hope goes to DIE!
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Old 25th Jan 2018, 21:02
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Is HKA on the brink of bankruptcy or something.. Seems like there's been a lot of new paper talks about the parent company, HNA, being in financial troubles. No?
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Old 25th Jan 2018, 21:41
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HKA is too politically important to the mainland Govt. They have decreed that HKA become the primary carrier in HK. The money supply will not be interrupted.
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Old 25th Jan 2018, 21:45
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This is good news. And to be honest I liked the video, it's a pretty cool lifestyle if you ask me.
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Old 26th Jan 2018, 00:41
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The real answer to the “education” question is “can’t afford ESF or International schools, they’re not at my income level, so we’re sending our kids to a local school”
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Old 26th Jan 2018, 01:38
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Seems a pretty dishonest video if you've ever been to Tung Chung.
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Old 26th Jan 2018, 02:02
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The cost of schooling is prohibitive for expat pilots. A decent school, that is based on your home countries standards will cost you hundreds of thousands of hkg $ to even get you children a place, never mind the ongoing costs (and no, CX does not cover the additional costs, which are considerable). No expat that I know would even consider placing their children in a 'local' school, for all the unsaid reasons.
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Old 26th Jan 2018, 03:47
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Great video. I think they're working on their next one at the moment. They've found a homeless person to interview with a positive outlook on life.
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Old 26th Jan 2018, 10:31
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And to be honest I liked the video, it's a pretty cool lifestyle if you ask me.
Tung Chung. Your Blade Runner lifestyle.
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Old 26th Jan 2018, 11:14
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Couldn’t care less about Tung Chung to be honest. You can live in many other nicer places.

The thing you guys are missing is the reality of many many many pilots nowadays. Wake up, do 4 legs, 11 hrs duty, 4 landings in possibly bad wx, 15 hrs rest, repeat. Ad nauseam. For half a CX pilot’s salary (C scaler).
If you were 28 years old now that’s probably what you’d be doing too.

I am not defending the sickening management practices and bonuses here, just to be clear. But I just want to remind you why HKA with choice of short and long haul, interesting trips, based in a modern city, is appealing to a lot pf people. Like it or not.
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Old 26th Jan 2018, 20:32
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The thing you guys are missing is the reality of many many many pilots nowadays. Wake up, do 4 legs, 11 hrs duty, 4 landings in possibly bad wx, 15 hrs rest, repeat. Ad nauseam.
Ain't that the truth!
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