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Old 26th Dec 2016, 14:57
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Let's Hear the Specific Changes You Want?

Let's make a list of specific changes you want?
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Old 26th Dec 2016, 20:08
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Originally Posted by Dan Buster
A management team that sees us as part of the solution not part of the problem.
How about a management team that is as committed to the long term success of the airline as they are to their own bonuses??? Yeah right, like that's going to happen.

PS - Repainting the airplanes is not the solution.
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Old 26th Dec 2016, 22:52
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Pretty easy. Stable rosters (meaning real rostered trips that stay that way) and some form of very limited long call reserve (whether you call it A days or whatever) which is seldom, if ever, used . This seemed to work pretty well for years and years while maximizing productivity for everyone. And letting the company flow out assets over several months versus only tomorrow or today. While also allowing an ability to deal with unforseeable contingencies (vice rostering problems of your own making which is what we are seeing now). A win-win.

I do not think the company fully realizes the damage it has caused by the perceived 'flexibility' of ever changing rosters and trying to use a form of 'continuous reserve' to cover for manning shortages. This 'flexibility' is not and never has really been there--especially in an operation that crosses many time zones with long haul ops, and it only serves to break what assets were still working up to that time. While also dramatically increasing workload for the schedulers as schedules continuously collapse.

For those hard of hearing, anytime you see an 'R' before a trip that is by definition an unstable roster. We are largely creating our own traps and our own roster instability.

So stable 'owned' rosters would go far toward maximizing what you can do with what you have.

It would also be nice for the powers to be to understand that we deal with an hours (not days) driven process and large gaps between long haul trips are not only desirable but often necessary.

Or for those needing a simpler explaination

Flying = good

Sitting on call = bad

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Old 26th Dec 2016, 23:26
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O days,
Free reserve,
Delays into G days with ZERO compensation.

One of those has to go at least.

Nothing stopping rostering of 20+ days per month.

Down route 1 in 7?? Wtf is that.
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Old 27th Dec 2016, 00:10
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I want the fuel hedging team to go 'hill walking with Ivan' and the whole lot of them never to darken the door of Cathay City again.
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Old 27th Dec 2016, 02:56
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Originally Posted by Frank W. Abagnale
Softer pillows downroute please.
Why don't you bring your own, Barbara?
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Old 27th Dec 2016, 23:37
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I'd like the flight number cards in despatch to be all the same colors.
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In order to battle that non-existing fatigue I want a Nespresso machine at dispatch.

Beats that urine coming out of that other coffee machine.
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Old 28th Dec 2016, 01:31
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I want the DFO's office in dispatch. No door.
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Old 28th Dec 2016, 02:45
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It's no wonder why we are getting right royally rogered. None of us really know what we want and anyway we all want something different. They don't have to divide and conquer, we are already schismed, (if that's a word), anyway it's what we are.
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I'd like our uniforms tailored by Heinrich Himmler's tailors', Hugo BOSS.
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Old 28th Dec 2016, 08:18
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I'd like a mint chocolate with my crew meal.
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Old 28th Dec 2016, 08:26
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Yes seconded. After eight mint.
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And stretched limos with bar and dancing girls to and from all crew hotels forthwith
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All the seasons of 'Seinfeld' on the IFE, dubbed in swedish.
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I d like to be treated with the same respect as when I first joined. (Last century)
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I d like to be treated with the same respect as when I first joined. (Last century)
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I want to break free
I want to break free from your lies
You're so self satisfied I don't need you
I've got to break free
God knows, God knows I want to break free.


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I want another engagement survey; like the last one that highlighted the total mediocrity of our management yet saw nothing change for the better afterwards.
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So true so true
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