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Old 7th Oct 2016, 05:22
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JFO upgrades stopped

heard all QLs have been stopped Until the end of Nov
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Old 7th Oct 2016, 05:34
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Maybe a shortage of C&Ters???

Don't worry, there's 2 soon-to-be-ex members doing the STC upgrade shortly. One of whom is apparently a plaintiff in the Paris base case.

Hand that feeds you???
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Yes, he is the biggest w@nker walking on the surface of the earth anyway. Also took an early freighter command as well.
It's because people like him that our COS are degrading constantly.

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Old 7th Oct 2016, 06:33
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Search for Duty "AX" for month of October. All Captains.
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Old 7th Oct 2016, 06:50
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Perhaps they don't want to qualify too many pilots until QF fill their quota. Applications open today.
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Hang on... I thought the training ban had no effect on them and that they shrugged it off by sending everyone to KA and AHK?

Could it have been a bluff?

Wuddathunkit?
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Old 7th Oct 2016, 11:25
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What did you expect from someone who has been telling everyone he didn't sign the training captains' letter and who "likes" everything the GMA posts on yammer.

Management wannabee he is.

But I am more disgusted by the fact that my own money goes into his pockets when the AoA keeps paying for his legal fees.
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Old 7th Oct 2016, 11:32
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Ahhh the training ban, "short term pain, long term gain". Don't worry, no one wanted an upgrade anyway.

What exactly is the TB trying to achieve? It's apparently not just RPs anymore, there's a whole heap of other things now. Absolute disaster this whole thing is. Sacrificing upgrades for no gain whatsoever.
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TCX is baaack!
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What is it we are even trying to get? No one knows anymore, just mindless and directionless confrontation.
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Old 7th Oct 2016, 15:46
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What is it we are even trying to get? No one knows anymore, just mindless and directionless confrontation.
A contractual, negotiated RP agreement.

Did you forget?
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Old 7th Oct 2016, 15:51
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Is that the guy with the (maybe physics?) degree from the French university which is better than MIT (according to him), the guy who thinks he's smarter than Einstein?
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Old 8th Oct 2016, 16:28
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Mcnugget,

It's not just about that anymore going by the Chairmans update. According to the update it's now RPs, HKPA and pay. No one knows what's going on, everyone is just being sucked into this pointless fight that is costing us money and career progression.

To be clear, the Chairman who is now leading the fight says we are in CC/TB for RPs, HKPA and pay. Anyone on expat housing who wanted to go into training must wait until an acceptable HKPA deal is reached otherwise he is the worst person in the world as described in the posts above.
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Old 8th Oct 2016, 23:19
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Thats why its called a union and collective bargaining. Members helping other members and not being selfish in times of need.
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Old 9th Oct 2016, 03:08
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Anyone on expat housing who wanted to go into training must wait until an acceptable HKPA deal is reached
Can anyone find an image of a spikey-haired troll?
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I dont think it will matter, sounds like the 13th month wont be paid this year. I think if that happens well have more issues that hkpa or rosters.
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Old 9th Oct 2016, 05:25
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I would be very surprised if they did not pay 13month
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Old 9th Oct 2016, 06:10
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I think it is extremely unfair and unrealistic someone on expat housing would delay going into training for HKPA, that's the point I was making. CC/TB was supposedly just for RPs but now there's other stuff that's been added on.
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Expect to be very surprised then. They will couch it such that gnd staff are not disadvantaged.
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Old 9th Oct 2016, 11:17
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If 13th month is NOT paid, the following events will occur:

1. DEFOs with wife and kids will still apply.
2. 250 hr 'Expats' will still apply.
3. Guys will still break the training ban.
4. People will still work G/L days.
5.Ppruners who say that they "don't take off 100kg" will still take off 100 kg.
6. RETI

I.e.nothing will change.Better save the next three months wages for your tax in Jan!
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