Today's airline pilots: Female Captain aged 26 with F/O 19 years old
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There was a time when airlines were competing with one another of being 'the world's most experienced airline', nowadays we proudly announce that inexperience and youth make a great airline and don't forget that the staff are MUCH cheaper too, win win
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One of the Singapore 747 captains in the late seventies was I seem to remember 28 and it was not his first command by any means. In fact I think he had worked his way through the whole fleet changing type more or less at yearly intervals as an FO then as a captain. I think Captain Gui was his name. In fact now I think about it was not the sadly missed 411A a Cathay captain at a very early age? But maybe my memory is playing tricks on me.
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Not sure who 411A was or is but from recall BK was probably the youngest captain ever at about 28. He retired rather early for reasons not worth repeating but he returned some years ago and like RH and the Skull lurks in the Bat Cave. Another young ascendant to the LHS was gentleman RM who retires this week after some 31 years.
Not sure who 411A was or is but from recall BK was probably the youngest captain ever at about 28. He retired rather early for reasons not worth repeating but he returned some years ago and like RH and the Skull lurks in the Bat Cave. Another young ascendant to the LHS was gentleman RM who retires this week after some 31 years.
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You have all missed the agenda behind the article.
easyJet have promoted these fresh faced, happy, healthy looking young people at a time when their pilots have balloted for a strike because they are fatigued by the new EASA rosters.
It's clever spin. The subliminal message is that everything is fine in orange land when the truth is otherwise.
easyJet have promoted these fresh faced, happy, healthy looking young people at a time when their pilots have balloted for a strike because they are fatigued by the new EASA rosters.
It's clever spin. The subliminal message is that everything is fine in orange land when the truth is otherwise.
411A was a prolific and amusingly outspoken pprune poster who passed away a while back. A quick search will no doubt reveal more..... particularly about his love of the L1011. I think my point is that 26 is not particularly unusual either today or in the dim and distant past, although full marks to the young lady.
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"Against Russians. He never would have had that many on the western front."
Somehow I knew someone would come up with that crap.
Those inferior Russians, right ?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List...II_flying_aces
I count 10 fighter pilots from the Soviet Union well in front of a certain Mr. Bong from the US of A way down on that list as the first non Russian Allied fighter ace.
Hans-Joachim Marseille was Germany's leading ace against western allied forces with 158 Air Victories when he died in 1942. That would equate to 316 Air Victories until 1945 in theory.
Western Arrogance of self seen superiority against the rest of the world never fails to amaze me.
The truth, however, looks slightly different.
Especially nowadays, with the Not So United States and the Not So United Kingdom as dying/dead beacons of western dominance over the world for the last few centuries.
Somehow I knew someone would come up with that crap.
Those inferior Russians, right ?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List...II_flying_aces
I count 10 fighter pilots from the Soviet Union well in front of a certain Mr. Bong from the US of A way down on that list as the first non Russian Allied fighter ace.
Hans-Joachim Marseille was Germany's leading ace against western allied forces with 158 Air Victories when he died in 1942. That would equate to 316 Air Victories until 1945 in theory.
Western Arrogance of self seen superiority against the rest of the world never fails to amaze me.
The truth, however, looks slightly different.
Especially nowadays, with the Not So United States and the Not So United Kingdom as dying/dead beacons of western dominance over the world for the last few centuries.
So 10 Russian pilots were ahead of Richard Bong in terms of kills. They also flew way more missions than Bong. Does that not mean anything to you? Most of the top Russian aces had well over 400 missions. Bong had 146 missions in a very different environment so it is difficult to compare.
If the Russians were so superior, the why is the shootdown list you provided dominated by Germans. I believe that the Germans and the Russians fought till they got killed policy.
The Finns had a 16:1 aerial combat kill ratio against the obviously inferior Russians when their tiny country basically fended off those Russkies(the same Russkies who worked with the Nazis to start WWII in Europe with their invasions of Poland and Finland) while the Russians had not even started fighting Germany yet.
Isn't the truth amazing. And now you have had it explained to you.
OK, back to the subject now.
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I never said the Russians were superior.
But feel free to think that Mr. Bongs 40 Japanese kills with 200 missions are the same as Russia's leading ace 62 German kills with 330 missions in inferior equipment.
Just to steal your line:
"Against Japanese. He never would have had that many on the eastern front (flying for the SU)."
But feel free to think that Mr. Bongs 40 Japanese kills with 200 missions are the same as Russia's leading ace 62 German kills with 330 missions in inferior equipment.
Just to steal your line:
"Against Japanese. He never would have had that many on the eastern front (flying for the SU)."
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But feel free to think that Mr. Bongs 40 Japanese kills with 200 missions are the same as Russia's leading ace 62 German kills with 330 missions in inferior equipment.
Just to steal your line:
"Against Japanese. He never would have had that many on the eastern front (flying for the SU)."
You might want to ask yourself why the Finns decimated the Russians in air to air operations.
And as you admit, the Russian equipment was inferior which is why, as I said originally, that Hartmann would never have done as well on the western front.
The Russians had inferior equipment at the start of WW2 but towards the end it was different , They had at least one decent fighter-name escapes me and the IL 2Sturmovik was a deadly Ground Attack aircraft- like the Stuka it was a sitting duck for fighters but thats wasnt what it was designed for.
Like their tanks which went from rubbish to the T34 in about a year and that won the war on the eastern front and was vastly superior to any western WW2 tank.
They just march to a different drum to us ,sometimes they get things right and sometimes they don't . The point someone made about history and attempted invasions of Russia though remains very relevant-leave em alone , like your parents said about wasps , dont bother them and they won't bother you-but .......
Like their tanks which went from rubbish to the T34 in about a year and that won the war on the eastern front and was vastly superior to any western WW2 tank.
They just march to a different drum to us ,sometimes they get things right and sometimes they don't . The point someone made about history and attempted invasions of Russia though remains very relevant-leave em alone , like your parents said about wasps , dont bother them and they won't bother you-but .......
