RAT Management

Anyone have the following tech quiz questions with a confirmed answer: SMS section is the most vague?
Question ID: SMS 01 - what is a safety management system
SMS- 04 - What is the focus of an SMS
SMS - 03- A safety culture consists of which key components

If you have the confirmed answer please reply.

Thanks in Advance

Captain Dart

I don't have the quiz with me right now but I typed these ridiculous questions into the IntraCx 'search' function and got some very obscure references to provide the possibly correct answers.

Will get back to the thread tomorrow.

We operate multi-million dollar machines carrying hundreds of people over multiple time zones and have to waste our time with this crap.

ACMS

Let's all go up and visit the office of the SMS responsible person and take up her time to help us answer.

Landflap

well said Dart. ACMS, of course, but you will be wasting your time. Many airlines confront candidates with a Tech Quiz and most are irrelevant. Mate of mine was floored twice by the Cx quiz and he was a highly experienced Captain having flowed several modern jet transports. Remember, most who fly through the quiz already have the answers. Pointless. But, try to get that through to the jobsworths. Good luck ACMS. Oh and by the way Capt Dart ; while you look through your answers, I too was wiped out by the CX quiz for ASL Freighters and to this day,have no idea why reducing EPR (old jets I know) can increase the RTOW. Not kidding. That was the answer they wanted . All EPR pilots I knew simply remarked.."BS".. !

oriental flyer

Landflap ,

If I remember right, reducing EPR on a contaminated runway would usually result in a greater RTOW , due to controlability in event of engine failure during take off

betpump5

We have a whole chapter in OPS A dedicated to SMS. I've never read so much Management Rubbish. Whoever wrote this turd obviously has a degree in Bovine Faeces.

Rant aside, the answers are in there albeit by seeing what the answer can't be as opposed to what it can be.

I love my job. I love my job. I love my job...

Shep69

I think we need to look at what the objective of the Tech Quiz is.

1. Fulfill a regulatory requirement of our AOC.

2. Get people back into the books to review stuff they might forget. Stuff they may not use on a day-to-day basis but might sometimes use and which could be important.

It's NOT to try to trip people up with subtile differences between wordsmithed answers, dig through books to find trivia, or to try to dwell on minutia between reasonable sounding choices.

i.e. "which one is NOT"
A and B
B and C
A,B, and C
A,B,C,D and E
All of the above
None of the above

Liam Gallagher

RAT Management

Question ID: SMS 01 - what is a safety management system

SMS is a management devised system where "stakeholders" are brought together to give the appearance that safety is a priority, when in fact the system is there to maximize profits whilst minimizing risk exposure to the Company by placing the risk upon the employee. (A days, AOD testing, Self-reporting, Medical etc)

SMS- 04 - What is the focus of an SMS

Profits

SMS - 03- A safety culture consists of which key components

Three Components;
1. Management are immune to scrutiny.
2. Line employees are the focus of scrutiny.
3. The use of lots of management "yuckspeak" to mask the first two components.

I hope my contributions help in your tech quiz.

spleener

Correct O.F., it was [is] a Vmcg problem, Derated Thrust vs Assumed Temperature methodology.

Gordomac

Landflap, I think I was the Bod. Still don't get it because I am just a Line Thicko. But, Reducing engine power on a contaminated runway in order to INCREASE the RTOW and thereby granting permission to carry DFO's merc is, er, beyond me. Bombing down the runway with reduced power and a greater RTOW..............hello.......ah dose dem runway lights mun ? OEPS !

Sorry, showing my true colours.

Oeps, sorry...........not allowed ? ....Look out Mods. I don't think I could do another term in the PPrune jail. Burt, Blimey lads.

I also failed the CX Tech quiz because I just could not, in addition to all the other BS questions remember what two black balls on top of the control tower meant.

Obviously not CX or CX cargo or ASL cargo material.

Managed 22000 hrs & fourty years without hurting anyone or scratching the paintwork.

Oh, wish I'd applied to NASA for the space cadet programme. Might, at least have got the phone number of Mum's correct when attempting to call from oribit ! Gimme a break !

Serving on the Airline Cadet Selection Board of my fave airline, we realised it boiled down to simples. Do we even like the look of this bloke ? Very high standards. Very hard to "select". Got the balance right by doing away with the BS.

oriental flyer

Gordomac,

The two black balls, is managements way of saying the sky is falling, profits are down ,crew will need to economize
Or was it the symbol for a black thunderstorm warning

el commandante

I agree the tech quiz should get you back into the books for some relevant and important stuff and not trying to steal people's time with useless nonsense.

And yes, in certain scenarios a reduced thrust can increase your RTOW. Remember V1 is basically limited by 2 factors: 1. VR and 2. VMCG. Now if the runway is contaminated and my V1 is on the lower limit because of VMCG but yet I'm not able to stop on the remaining RWY, I have to lower my V1. But yet I can't do that because of the lower limit is VMCG so only solution is to lower thrust and thus decrease VMCG speeds.
So the problem here is not the get airborne but to stop on a contaminated RWY.

BuzzBox

Some of you lot need to get a grip. There is an IOSA requirement for ALL staff to complete SMS 'training'. For pilots, the company has chosen to fulfil that requirement by including a few SMS questions in the Annual Quiz. The alternative would be for all pilots to complete yet another e-learning module that would contain the same naff questions. What would you prefer?

The questions aren't difficult and the answers aren't hard to find. Try doing a search for 'SMS Handbook' on intraCX.

Gordomac

I'm with Oriental Flyer's take. I thought it meant that the ATCO had been knackered. But, thanks to some other offerings on EPR/increased RTOW etc. Gosh, you chaps are good. Still don't get it. But back to the thread, "selection" Tech quiz is quite useless if the answers are already known.

MENELAUS

Kerrist Gordo. You're on here again. Living vicariously or what ? Are all the brothels and gay bars on Cyprus shut ?
I don't think CX would have liked your tech log origami skills. Even if you had passed the tech quiz. If you get my drift.

cyrex

for the sms questions just enter "sms"in the intracx search and click on the link "10 THINGS YOU sHOULD KNOW ABOUT SAFETY MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS".. Answers are all there.

Landflap

Globo, getting downwind of your drift would remind us all of the fragrance of your rotten little harbour. I doubt Gmac or many of us would fall for your bullying and we will always visit any public forum we like. Now geeza kiss you ole clossit !

MENELAUS

Bullying a pair of obvious mental pygmies such as yourself and Gordo is all part of the fun. With your obvious grasp of the fundamentals of de rate, assumed temperature and vmcg it's hardly surprising you both failed the ASL selection. The ASL selection mind you.
Those of us who have had the misfortune to witness first hand the high calibre ( both professional and personal ) traits of ASL DECN's would attest to what a shower they were. Most of them are gone; a few, career opportunists quite content to f&&k over an established seniority system, linger on. Come to think of it, you and Gordo would have fitted in with the ASL coterie quite well.
As for your last comment I'd love to old son however my a��se is still sore from the last time.

Gordomac

And there you have it Mods. Right there. Is Globo, I mean gobbo, really Reinhardt under new guise ? Thread creep ? got it in one. Take him down Judge. ER, well, looks like he's the type who is well used to it. And, if I may say so Gobbo, we, the top guns, loved stepping on your promotion prospects. L o v e d it .

Oh & when you do your time in the Pprune jail...........don't drop the soap. You are not senior enough to enjoy what I got, private Cell with en suite & upgrade.

Do be careful Gobbo. TWO green eyes, you don't need them raybans ! Bless.

MENELAUS

Marvellous Gordo. Marvellous. Unintelligible much of it. Top Gun ? My work here is done it would appear. 'Night.