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Old 26th Sep 2016, 10:34
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As a result of recent incidents in HKG waters the local MARDEP is under the microscope. As a result they have taken a revised stance ( to be strictly correct it was always the stance just never enforced before ) that long term liveaboards are illegal. This despite the fact that people have lived on them, and bought and sold them happily for years.
As a result CX will not pay the assistance for a new boat mortgage. They are honouring existing agreements. This has the knock on effect of making boats difficult to sell.
Lobbying of our dysfunctional government is under way so this may change. Don't hold one's breath however.
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Old 26th Sep 2016, 11:30
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Living on a boat in hKG


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkWQvzrv6gI

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Old 26th Sep 2016, 15:15
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As a result CX will not pay the assistance for a new boat mortgage.
I think the questions are coming from those weighing up options if employed as a DEFO. The above quote is misleading. CX will not pay for any mortgage, boat, house or otherwise as you no longer get a housing allowance to be spent solely on somewhere to live. You will get an extra HK$14K a month on top of your salary and you can spend it on anything you want. If you are crazy enough to think that is enough to live on a boat in Hong Kong, you are able to use it for that purpose, CX have no say in what you spend it on.
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Old 26th Sep 2016, 15:49
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Yes misleading ( not deliberately so ) if viewed from the specific viewpoint of a DEFO joining now. Factually correct for the majority of current boat owners. And if and when an improved HKPA gets voted through then increasingly more attractive to boat owners ( and SEA commuters). Especially as you become more senior and can do with the money as you see fit. In either event no one is lending money ( certainly not the larger sums required for floating dwellings ) these days as a result of the Govt's intransigence.

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Old 26th Sep 2016, 17:02
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450 Sq Ft it is then.Enjoy!!
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Old 27th Sep 2016, 02:11
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Yeah thats correct and a high defo failure rate, good luck come on over, move your family, rack up a new lease just to fail line training and end up in debt. Its the new way here, cheap and quick labor to skirt the union training ban.
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Old 27th Sep 2016, 02:31
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No stoked, it's not that bad - it's MUCH worse

Maybe you should go back and read all the posts about not looking at pure $ amounts, and look at cost of living, then you'll get a better perspective.

EK housing is about double CX, yet real estate costs in HK are probably at least double Dubai, maybe more.
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Old 27th Sep 2016, 03:07
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https://www.justproperty.com/en/rent...ings-11-65522/

What your allowance gets you in Dubai working for EK.

Below is what you can expect in HKG using your CX allowance.

http://www.squarefoot.com.hk/property/21526716/

The HKG property is almost 1/6th the size of the Dubai house, you are reading it correctly, 439 sq/ft!

Rather than just imagining this number in your head, measure out 30ft by 15ft. That is a tad bigger than this 2 bedroom apartment.


If you have images of living in town, amongst the nightlife, pubs and clubs. This is what you would come home to using the CX allowance.

http://www.squarefoot.com.hk/property/21683513/

15 feet by 13 feet, kitchen bedroom and bathroom all squeezed into that space.

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Old 27th Sep 2016, 03:11
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....couldn't stop laughing. 490 sq ft versus 2500 sq ft...and you get taxed in HK on the allowance to boot. Never mind about 10 years less to command in Dubai. No brainer.
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Old 27th Sep 2016, 09:02
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If you are a FO with say AirAsia or Cebu Pacific then it is attractive.
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Old 27th Sep 2016, 11:17
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If you can't go to any other major in your home country, or any of the ME3, then yes, it is attractive.
Salary and safety will be better here than in AirAsia or Cebu, but will lifestyle be better than in other Asian countries?

Like other have said: you'll be trading a house for a shoebox.
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Old 28th Sep 2016, 06:07
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And you have rocks in your head if you want to commute even from somewhere in the philippines or south east asia on a 747 or airbus roster. Min legal days off and unstable.

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Old 28th Sep 2016, 07:05
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It's spelt Philippines.

If you are going to mention it then please have the decency to spell it correctly.
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Old 28th Sep 2016, 08:28
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Plus I don't see many of us captains giving any sectors to new DEFOs
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Old 28th Sep 2016, 10:07
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It's spelt Philippines.

If you are going to mention it then please have the decency to spell it correctly.
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Old 28th Sep 2016, 11:17
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LOL, Tim! .
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Old 28th Sep 2016, 17:52
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People in glass houses………..
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Old 29th Sep 2016, 08:21
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No sectors for DEFO , is it their fault ?
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Old 29th Sep 2016, 10:11
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Latest rumour from the A50 instructors is the DEFOs are going direct onto the A50.....and as there is no 350 - 330 course, only 330 - 350, there they will stay enjoying the ULH lifestyle us senior guys are denied.....you can't make this stuff up.
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Old 29th Sep 2016, 10:18
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Yeah right...show me where I can find the A350 conversion course in IntraCX.
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