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Old 13th Nov 2015, 14:57
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Wink

Interesting discussion but the DPA and the AOA are simply interested spectators.

The FAU has a major issue that a few hundred KA office staff were given priority 25 on Cx based on KA DOJ.
But they've an even bigger issue that a few thousand cabin crew may get the same benefit. It's not just the travel. The FAU were concerned random DOJ Cx would be used in future promotions, basings, etc. And the concerns do have some merit. How many DOJ's can one individual have to one organisation?

It's fairly safe to assume that not one KA cabin crew or cockpit crew will board an aircraft before an FAU member. Swire are bullies. They don't fight the fights that are too hard.
The DPA is an easy fight.
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Old 13th Nov 2015, 15:11
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Originally Posted by is don is good
CX employees get J on KA.
Don referring to travel in uniform. CX crew get booked in economy by the company whilst travelling on company business as they do not consider KA as being part of the same airline.
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Old 14th Nov 2015, 00:43
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The FAU has a major issue that a few hundred KA office staff were given priority 25 on Cx based on KA DOJ.
But they've an even bigger issue that a few thousand cabin crew may get the same benefit. It's not just the travel. The FAU were concerned random DOJ Cx would be used in future promotions, basings, etc. And the concerns do have some merit. How many DOJ's can one individual have to one organisation?
I think you guys are making stuff up as you go along.

KA's regional expansion over the CX network with more likely to come was a suspected trigger for this universal Corporate scheme.

Like ACMS, you can go with the wind on principles and feign a concern for commuters, but if the situation considered practically and with regards to demographics, CX staff are the biggest winners.

Only expat pilot commuting has been considered not surprisingly. But what of regional commuting which seems to be dominated by CX cabin crew? I'd expect a growing demand from cockpit crew too, as the cost of living inflation continues to hum along at higher than reported levels for professional expats without housing.

Nothing surprises me here and my expectations met so I am not as furious as some. Broken promises, foolish hand shake deals and a race to the bottom aided by the swagger of legacy pilots. That's all expected. What does shake the confidence is a needless and mismanaged drive to industrial action over something that I don't think was asked for.
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Old 14th Nov 2015, 05:19
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IMHO

The KA situation is about mismanaged expectations on top of a really tough year(s) where crews kept the show on the road.
Sadly every area that CX has been involved in with regards to KA appears to involve frustratingly inept judgement. The usual reaction from the crews is a roll of the eyes and "here we go again".
It is approaching a tipping point.
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Old 19th Nov 2015, 09:07
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whats the value of the KA travel fund per annum?
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Old 19th Nov 2015, 11:48
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10-15,000 USD give or take
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Old 20th Nov 2015, 03:48
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Correction - over 18,000 USD per year depending on your 'domicile' (galapagos islands anyone?)

I would gladly ditch my useless FOCs for that thank you very much
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Old 20th Nov 2015, 08:20
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Contract compliance and training ban hurting.

And yet, they do nothing about it (still no RPs and no improvement in HKPA).

It seems they embrace lose/lose situations.
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Old 20th Nov 2015, 10:23
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And don't forget the Illy coffee. Thank god (or HC, same thing really) for that Illy coffee - it really does make working for CX so wonderful.
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Old 20th Nov 2015, 11:55
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Xx new joiners. Xx commands. Have a good weekend while the airline implodes. Out of her depth Bring back Richard
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Old 20th Nov 2015, 19:06
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Don't worry, Ivan the Invisible is on to it.
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