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Old 15th Oct 2015, 04:16
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Good points cxorcist.

I like the way you think......
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Old 16th Oct 2015, 03:56
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And the company's response....

As predicted, you're entitled to SFA!

A nice litmus test to see how we react and then on to reducing expat terms no doubt.
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Old 21st Oct 2015, 02:25
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Ladies and Gentlemen,

I am disappointed, but surprisingly, not surprised.

When will you see it our way, and accept the HKPA as it is?

Yes, HK is expensive, see above point.

Don't make us (managers) feel bad and raise emotions, you liars.

I'm so sorry, we can't find days that work for all to keep negotiating. ISD hold all the power, and they won't use their magic wand to give us days off to negotiate.

Additionally, here is a backdating carrot... Lets just have the mediator mediate on that.

Finally, these negotiations are annoying, just hurry up and accept the pineapple.

If you have any questions, please email me at PFO#[email protected]
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Old 21st Oct 2015, 02:43
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I wish I was that eloquent Dan Buster.

Just trying to dumb down all those fancy paragraphs and sentences into something more easily digestible.
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Old 21st Oct 2015, 03:00
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....you dumbed it down so much no one can understand what you are saying. Give up.
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Old 21st Oct 2015, 07:33
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Just flew with two new S/O's, both with thousands of hours, one a former captain.
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Old 21st Oct 2015, 07:40
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Just flew with two new S/O's, both with thousands of hours, one a former captain.
Yet all this industry can offer them is this toilet. Makes you sick doesn't it.
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Old 21st Oct 2015, 12:45
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Yes this is true, there are several guys in the pipeline with 5000 plus hours and some with a good amont of jet time. The majority of them though are low time turboprop types though.
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Old 21st Oct 2015, 12:58
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This is the end result of pilots having a seniority system, airlines can screw the conditions down and down knowing pilots A. Are unable to leave and join the bottom of a new list and B. Forced to sacrifice everything to actually get on the list.

When will we realise seniority now benefits them more than us!
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Old 21st Oct 2015, 13:04
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Well, it's not a democracy, innit? Seniority is not our choice, it's theirs.
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Old 22nd Oct 2015, 07:33
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Originally Posted by mngmt mole
....you dumbed it down so much no one can understand what you are saying. Give up.
Join the Aoa, and you will understand.
Enjoy working your G tmrw...
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Old 26th Oct 2015, 08:46
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Hong Kong??? Thanks but no thanks.

''The only people coming to CX are those that truly don't understand the real facts. Having flown with countless disillusioned, demoralised and frustrated SO's, the common denominator is they 'just didn't really understand' the reality of living in HK on a derisory salary and 'housing' allowance. Twenty years ago, NO one would have come to HK without housing....for a reason.''

Sat down with son number one who was considering Cathay offer and went through the numbers.

Spread sheet in hand with income projections together with actual rental rates sourced over the internet.

When he realised what the deal was........he promptly emailed HR with a thanks but no thanks.

He will stay in the home country and pitch for the jobs he wants or give the game away and activate plan B. [My advice, retired long haul]
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Old 26th Oct 2015, 13:05
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Oh come on, plenty more spaces available in the A scale nepotism recruitment stream.
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