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Here we go again, cockpit photos, good bye jumpseat

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Old 8th Mar 2015, 14:32
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“An observation that people who live permanently in an adoptive country tend to progressively generalize the bad and particularize the good, that is, attribute the bad traits in people they encounter to the national trait of the natives, and the good things to the individual.
This holds equally well for French people living in the U.S. as it does for Americans living in France.”
― Nassim Nicholas Taleb
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Exactly!!

"Not being a little too precious are we?

I see dumber crap than this in the cockpit most sectors these days.
And that's what the CAD should be interested in."

I guess you didn't realize that everyone here in infallible. We are allowed to make mistakes (even though we are in fact infallible), but no one else.

We won't lose our jumpseats. FA's won't lose their jumpseats. Everybody take a deep breath, relax and get over it.

And especially for the tool that said "end of story" get over yourself most importantly.
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Old 8th Mar 2015, 16:02
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Why no official statement or response from company yet?
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This is not a simple story.
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Old 9th Mar 2015, 02:29
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To the HKCAD, look I really think you should look at banning Qantas from flying to HK, I mean look how many "cannots" they recently did, I mean there were people standing in the cockpit, videos in the cockpit, cockpit crew hanging out the hatch, people actually on the airfield watching while the plane landed in front of them, they even had kids on their shoulders even fire trucks were spraying actual water!



Qantas retires its oldest aircraft, the City of Canberra 747-400, to Wollongong aviation museum - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

And please don't search you tube for cockpit videos as all your precious rules being deliberately broken by all these foreign airlines might make your heads explode at being unable to comprehend actual aviation.


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Old 9th Mar 2015, 05:20
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Thou doth protest too much, methinks.

What, are you the Ex???

Talk about molehills and mountains.
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Old 10th Mar 2015, 10:30
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Soul and Suzie

As you say there is more to this than meets the eye. I see Cantonese Opera writ large and loud.

Whether it is anyone's business is another matter, but how did the Fish Wrapper Daily get the story?

The lady (no matter how retarded) had a legitimate boarding pass and that should be the end of it....but somehow I do not see that happening.
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Old 10th Mar 2015, 12:20
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Completely off topic, but when quoting Nassim Nicholas Taleb, as if he's some sort of intellectual giant, it's worth remembering this opening pearler from his book "The Bed of Procustes":

"Pharmaceutical companies are better at inventing diseases that match existing drugs, rather than inventing drugs to match existing diseases."

Pretty much shreds any semblance of his credibility right there (Yeah, that's right, "big Pharma" invents diseases). How someone so scientifically illiterate becomes a poster child for logic and reasoning I'll never know.
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Old 10th Mar 2015, 23:45
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Superfrozo, I think you might find the 'pharma' quote refers to their exceptional abilities to market what they already have on the shelf, and their less than remarkable ability to can products that they have invested significant sums in that don't actually deliver, ie their substantially well documented lack of ethics in the case of failed drug trials. But we digress. Regardless of your opinion of the author, or my opinion for that matter, Taleb's observation used in the quote above was in my humble opinion an accurate reflection of the stereotyping we were reading in this thread.
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Old 11th Mar 2015, 02:46
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If I was going to argue his point, I might open with "restless leg syndrome" and leave it there.
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Old 11th Mar 2015, 23:01
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Grd staff req"s for JS

It is always possible in this case, that the JS usage was as a result of a request by the dispatching TPE groundstaff. It may be that if as an ex CX crew, she was travelling on a retired staff ticket, that with a full flight it was simply thought that staff ticket can use a JS if the Captain agrees to release.

Personally, having heard of a number of these cases at outports where when you returning to HK with a full flt, Captains are asked if they can release the JS to Joe Bloggs, only to find in the cruise that Joe Bloggs isn't of the category that the groundstaff said, and is therefore ineligible to be granted the JS.

Consequently, and especially in the current environment where any toe over the line can be a D&G on Monday, (and packing bags by Fiday!), unless I know the staff personally and can be certain they are Kosha, I only release JS's to staff that have applied online, to ensure they have met those eligibility requirements.
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Old 12th Mar 2015, 06:12
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Pilot invited attractive Chinese passenger to sit next to him in the cockpit | Daily Mail Online


Defamation of character lawsuit anyone?

Am sure the captain invited her onto the flight deck because she was attractive.

If you were the captain of said flight, leak your name to the Daily Mail to make the court case easier to win.
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Old 12th Mar 2015, 08:03
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Apparently x crew with a staff parent. Hence on staff travel and entitled to request a JS.

Still a silly goose for taking then posting the photos...
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Goose. Nicely put.
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