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EK road show HK, March 1st

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EK road show HK, March 1st

Old 6th Mar 2015, 03:38
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It all boils down to the housing in HKG.
Not true if our case here is EK and friends.

Have you lived in the Middle East? There's a lot more on offer in HKG IMO. Security, restaurants and cheap high quality alcohol, plenty of lifestyle escapes close by. Perhaps if you are a European and have never grown up with sunny days having a little boat on the Persian Gulf will be an attraction.

HKG's big issues are pollution and a toxic relationship between management and staff. This will drive some attrition. I just can not see any immediate attraction to the Mid East from HKG pilots; perhaps in the future expats on C scale will leave as DEC's more so than we are seeing today.
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Old 6th Mar 2015, 03:49
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The big difference between living in your home country and paying tax and living in Asia or ME is lifestyle. I would be more than happy to pay the tax if I'm living where I want to live, with my friends and Family around the corner.

IM living in HKG for the money...until I can go back home...not because I love HKG...and the smell of Mongkok!

The reality is that without housing, life in HKG sucks big time!

No lifestyle and no money!

Go to where you can either have one or the other!
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Old 6th Mar 2015, 10:52
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Lifestyle in Dubai is not comparable to Hong Kong, it's way better. Restuarants are cheaper and better quality, supermarkets are cheaper with far greater variety. It offers an outdoors lifestyle that you just don't get in Hong Kong due to the pollution and the dirty South China Sea. The EPC card allows for huge discounts, this combined with the tax free salary, lower costs and the EK wages are comparable to CX.

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Old 8th Mar 2015, 13:00
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Angel EK

pretty good turnout.
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Old 8th Mar 2015, 14:14
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Outdoor life?

What, in the 50 degree heat? Sure...
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Old 9th Mar 2015, 01:19
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Some interesting reading on the Middle East forum: crew shortages, resignation rates, cancelled courses, mediocre turnouts at the road shows, meanwhile the shiny jets just keep coming...
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Old 9th Mar 2015, 06:31
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So, when are you guys leaving?

Right...
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Old 9th Mar 2015, 08:29
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EK's command course is only 10 sectors long...not like the space shuttle training at CX/KA.

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Old 9th Mar 2015, 08:31
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So, when are you guys leaving?
Most iKids don't have the hours atm...
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Old 9th Mar 2015, 09:47
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I would if they accepted my hours

I would if they are accepting my hours (as most Second Officers would)
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Old 9th Mar 2015, 12:12
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Nope. It's 10 trips that is 20 sectors followed by the release to line check and then a normal line check.
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Old 9th Mar 2015, 13:59
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Never let the bull**** ruin a good story eh ?
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Old 10th Mar 2015, 03:05
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Arcla,

Got the EK training manual in front of me...10 sectors it is for an "on type" upgrade (which is ops normal in EK).

Get your facts right.

AB
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Old 10th Mar 2015, 05:37
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Wow, only 10 sectors.
This must mean that they trust their own decision in marking the candidates ready for upgrade.
This as opposed to this outfit that seems hellbent on proving itself wrong in this regard.
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Old 10th Mar 2015, 06:23
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AB - okay I have just checked the newest 2015 Training manual (1.3.1.9) and I humbly stand corrected.
However my point was that you make the EK command course sound like a walk in the park which it is not. Yes it's not the NASA space programme like at CX but it's certainly robust and any candidate that completes the course is just as competent.
I agree with Oasis - possibly EK gets the nomination to command process right...
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Old 10th Mar 2015, 09:43
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Arcla,

No worries - I realize that I might have come across like that but I am sure at EK the command course is very tough indeed. Similar to CX, captains at EK could encounter 15+ different accents a month in every climate zone out there.

The selection process for command is a lot tougher at EK and that could be the reason for a higher pass rate. 40 sectors at CX gives the candidate more opportunity to screw up or a trainer to find "minor stuff" on 30 more occasions than at EK.

Lets get back to the topic since this thread is about the EK roadshow.

Cheers,
AB

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Old 10th Mar 2015, 13:38
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How exactly is the command selection process at EK tougher than at CX?
Just interested...
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Old 10th Mar 2015, 13:43
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They blind fold you in the office then ask you to find your way out.
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