My interview exp at DragonAir
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Don't worry about it bro. "You's pay's your money and take's your chances" (hows that for SPEAAALLLing?).
Interviews nowdays are so focused on trying to make you doubt yourself and step on your own #$%^ that I think they miss the mark in actually looking at your experince and background (ie. the CV)
I would take some time and think about how you would answered the interview questions differently. You might not have changed anything in retrospect or you might see where you might have played the game a bit better.
And for Chissake, dont listen to people busting your hump about how many times you've refered to yourself in your post, and then tell you that YOU'VE got a problem, ("Be a single seat fighter jock") whaaa?
Boy's and Girl's, please tone down on the Anti American thing. I'm lucky to have flown with many Nationalities, lots of great hands, feet and minds. Not once have I ever felt uneasy about taking my rest in the bunk with an American Pilot upfront. Experinced, practical and mature in their profession for the most part.
Turk. You not only could probably teach this lot a thing or two about flying but maybe manners as well.
I'm not on PPRUNE much anymore (without a rumsicle or two in me) but I couldnt resist responding to this post.
Good Luck Turk!
Don't worry about it bro. "You's pay's your money and take's your chances" (hows that for SPEAAALLLing?).
Interviews nowdays are so focused on trying to make you doubt yourself and step on your own #$%^ that I think they miss the mark in actually looking at your experince and background (ie. the CV)
I would take some time and think about how you would answered the interview questions differently. You might not have changed anything in retrospect or you might see where you might have played the game a bit better.
And for Chissake, dont listen to people busting your hump about how many times you've refered to yourself in your post, and then tell you that YOU'VE got a problem, ("Be a single seat fighter jock") whaaa?
Boy's and Girl's, please tone down on the Anti American thing. I'm lucky to have flown with many Nationalities, lots of great hands, feet and minds. Not once have I ever felt uneasy about taking my rest in the bunk with an American Pilot upfront. Experinced, practical and mature in their profession for the most part.
Turk. You not only could probably teach this lot a thing or two about flying but maybe manners as well.
I'm not on PPRUNE much anymore (without a rumsicle or two in me) but I couldnt resist responding to this post.
Good Luck Turk!
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Thanks a lot Wally. Yea, i have been thinking about this daily as to how i could have answered, well lets just say more appropriately to ease their minds. When they asked them what negative things did i hear, i should have never told them what i actually heard. Guess i was just too honest.
I have been fortunate enough to fly with all types of people from many diff cultures and so forth. I can understand the anti american sentiment sometimes, but as a whole i don't think that outside of Canadians that you will find a group that is more practical and relaxed. Then again, i have also seen some that are not so i guess it really depends on the person...
From what i was told from current employees at Dragon that the training and checking as well as what they want you to know is quite a lot. Whether that is good or bad is open for dispute, but i do not think i would want most of my flights to feel like i have to be under the gun and have an oral on each one.
Maybe things did work out for the best, who knows. Anyway hopefully others can better prepare then i did if they do get a chance to interview there.
Thanks Again Wally
I have been fortunate enough to fly with all types of people from many diff cultures and so forth. I can understand the anti american sentiment sometimes, but as a whole i don't think that outside of Canadians that you will find a group that is more practical and relaxed. Then again, i have also seen some that are not so i guess it really depends on the person...
From what i was told from current employees at Dragon that the training and checking as well as what they want you to know is quite a lot. Whether that is good or bad is open for dispute, but i do not think i would want most of my flights to feel like i have to be under the gun and have an oral on each one.
Maybe things did work out for the best, who knows. Anyway hopefully others can better prepare then i did if they do get a chance to interview there.
Thanks Again Wally
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CR, appreciate your optimism. I just hate failure. Was thinking of calling them to ask how i could have done better but doubtful they will give out that info.
There used to be quite a few Americans and a tonne of Aussies at KA, they all started leaving 2007/8 when all the LCC's needed experienced pilots for their Aussie and Singapore operations.
Interesting no Pilot was in the interview. I did the same interview 10 years ago and was interviewed by 1xHr and two senior Expat Pilots.
Don't take it too seriously, a few others who had 5x the stick time as I did also applied any had no luck. Needless to say I saw some strange things whilst working in China.
Interesting no Pilot was in the interview. I did the same interview 10 years ago and was interviewed by 1xHr and two senior Expat Pilots.
Don't take it too seriously, a few others who had 5x the stick time as I did also applied any had no luck. Needless to say I saw some strange things whilst working in China.
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Where did you work in China? Yea I've seen a lot of crazy stuff here. Yea just 2 HR woman. No pilots. I would have felt MUCH more comfortable with a pilot in the loop.
Wonder if I should call them to see if they will tell me what I did or said wrong.
Wonder if I should call them to see if they will tell me what I did or said wrong.
Hi Turk
I havent read all the way thru these posts yet - but, here is something to consider. I lost my job 6 months ago and have done a number of behavioral interviews since. For all these interviews I have done enormous preparation. In a very competitive market, I have been just that, very competitive. My interview prep involved 6 or so hours a day, for up to a month, looking at very good youtube clips about behavioral interviews (highly recommended), practicing answers, even paying for an online interview prep course.
Now to get to my point. Clearly THE most important thing I learned relates to this earlier quote from you.
"Having said that, they are interviewing me, and we are discussing me at the interview so how else does one talk about ones self if they cannot use I or any other references to themself?"
In fact, it IS NOT about you. The interview, from their perspective, is all about THEM. You will find a multitude of these interview gurus online telling you this. KA or anyone else is not hiring you for YOUR benefit, it is for their's. And that is why your answers must all be about THEM, how THEY will benefit from giving you the nod.
You are a salesman selling yourself. A car salesman sells a car. As a seller, the car salesman doesn't give a fig about what the car does for you, he cares about himself, his bonus for instance. But he must convince YOU why the car is good for YOU. And as a buyer (ie KA) you dont give a fig about his bonus, all you care about is why the car will be best for you as the buyer. So think of this - if you asked the salesman why should I buy your product, if he said because I will get a bonus, win emloyee of the month and win a free trip to Ugadoogoo - what do you care. You want a good car. What do you care about him??
Likewise, when KA, as the buyer, asks you why they should buy your product (ie you), Think like a car salesman, tell them why its good for THEM. When they ask, so why this job? They do not give a rats about "oh its good financially, lifestyle seems great, my friends are happy there, good benefits." No, you wouldnt buy from a car salesman if you asked why buy from him if he prattled on about why its good for him.
Tell them, when they ask, "so why this job?" - "well, I believe this company is moving forward in the right direction, and I believe the experience and skillset I can bring to you can contribute to the company's future success. In looking at where the company operates, and the type of personnel working hard to achive success in these areas, I believe I am a good fit for KA and its operations. And if I'm a good fit for you, and can rapidly build on what I can bring to this operation, then I believe its a mutually win win situation for both KA and myself."
Sorry about the long ramble - But youtube is your friend, never do an interview without a youtube search of behavioral interviews.
ITS NEVER ABOUT YOU !!!
I havent read all the way thru these posts yet - but, here is something to consider. I lost my job 6 months ago and have done a number of behavioral interviews since. For all these interviews I have done enormous preparation. In a very competitive market, I have been just that, very competitive. My interview prep involved 6 or so hours a day, for up to a month, looking at very good youtube clips about behavioral interviews (highly recommended), practicing answers, even paying for an online interview prep course.
Now to get to my point. Clearly THE most important thing I learned relates to this earlier quote from you.
"Having said that, they are interviewing me, and we are discussing me at the interview so how else does one talk about ones self if they cannot use I or any other references to themself?"
In fact, it IS NOT about you. The interview, from their perspective, is all about THEM. You will find a multitude of these interview gurus online telling you this. KA or anyone else is not hiring you for YOUR benefit, it is for their's. And that is why your answers must all be about THEM, how THEY will benefit from giving you the nod.
You are a salesman selling yourself. A car salesman sells a car. As a seller, the car salesman doesn't give a fig about what the car does for you, he cares about himself, his bonus for instance. But he must convince YOU why the car is good for YOU. And as a buyer (ie KA) you dont give a fig about his bonus, all you care about is why the car will be best for you as the buyer. So think of this - if you asked the salesman why should I buy your product, if he said because I will get a bonus, win emloyee of the month and win a free trip to Ugadoogoo - what do you care. You want a good car. What do you care about him??
Likewise, when KA, as the buyer, asks you why they should buy your product (ie you), Think like a car salesman, tell them why its good for THEM. When they ask, so why this job? They do not give a rats about "oh its good financially, lifestyle seems great, my friends are happy there, good benefits." No, you wouldnt buy from a car salesman if you asked why buy from him if he prattled on about why its good for him.
Tell them, when they ask, "so why this job?" - "well, I believe this company is moving forward in the right direction, and I believe the experience and skillset I can bring to you can contribute to the company's future success. In looking at where the company operates, and the type of personnel working hard to achive success in these areas, I believe I am a good fit for KA and its operations. And if I'm a good fit for you, and can rapidly build on what I can bring to this operation, then I believe its a mutually win win situation for both KA and myself."
Sorry about the long ramble - But youtube is your friend, never do an interview without a youtube search of behavioral interviews.
ITS NEVER ABOUT YOU !!!
And while I'm on the subject of how HR has screwed the world over with their f...cked up views on recruting - next time I do an interview for a job I am not really interested in, I swear, when they ask
"so Rod, what would you say is your biggest weakness?"
I'm gunna reply
"Well I think I masturbate too much."
And then when they ask
"so what would you say your biggest strength is, I'm gunna answer
"I can masturbate 15 times a day."
Yep, that'll work.
"so Rod, what would you say is your biggest weakness?"
I'm gunna reply
"Well I think I masturbate too much."
And then when they ask
"so what would you say your biggest strength is, I'm gunna answer
"I can masturbate 15 times a day."
Yep, that'll work.
