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Old 4th Sep 2016, 08:25   #121 (permalink)
 
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The 350's will arrive in 2018 and are additional.

Any of you guys who are promised a 20/10 commuting contract - and if its a 'deal breaker' if you don't get it - be VERY careful. Don't give up a secure job to come here if you're depending on that. They'll promise the sun, moon 'n stars to get you signed up, but its one of THOSE places where they feel no compunction whatever in later changing the deal at their whim and to suit themselves.

Its a Chinese Airline, without the big bucks and guaranteed commuting.
Normally those benefits would counterbalance that "Chinese Attitude" that you have to learn to accept up North. But in HKA you'll get the full-on Chinese Attitude, without the benefits.
When you take money from these people - they OWN you,. Body mind and soul. You exist to serve. Nothing else is remotely important.

Whatever they promise, get it in writing, and be ready to walk when they don't deliver.
Otherwise, be prepared to join the ranks of the slaves they already abuse.

Oh, by the way, one detail you should consider - you get no 'freebies' to commute home. You pay for your own tickets. HKA Staff Travel is a PITA to use and you'll soon prefer just buying direct from the airline you'll be travelling with. The price difference is usually minimal anyhow because their Staff Tickets are overpriced. The application process is Byzantine, sheer drudgery.

The problem then arises that you may plan on going home on your last duty day (after your final flight). Forget that. The first and last days of your block days off will be spent travelling, because if you make a plan to go earlier they'll inevitably change your roster at the last minute.
They will never facilitate your commute by finishing you early before Days Off. They actually have a policy position against that because it encourages pilots to take risks with fatigue and missed connections.

Even if you do manage to get a swop (very difficult) onto an early finish - be prepared to get a phone call just before it starts telling you you're now switched to a duty with a late finish - thus screwing up your travel plans and probably costing you a full fare ticket. Happens all the time. There is no Roster Stability. There are no limits on the changes they may give you, only legal Min Rest and Max Duty limits.

Another favourite is to pull you off a flight (maybe your early finish before Days Off) and put you on a late Reserve, along with maybe another 10 reserves they already have.
So again your full-fare ticket gets flushed, along with your home plans, and you'll simply sit on your ass in HKG twiddling your thumbs when you could have been on your way back to your loved ones. They don't give a s**t.
They own you, so eat it and smile.

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Old 16th Sep 2016, 10:45   #122 (permalink)
 
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HKA orders nine A333 in addition to the A359.

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Old 17th Sep 2016, 05:00   #123 (permalink)
 
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Heard a HKG based FedEx guy just joined HKA. He really must have hated flying freight!
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Old 17th Sep 2016, 14:42   #124 (permalink)
 
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He really must have hated flying freight!

and...


-his fat paycheck
-his housing allowance
-his respectable worldwide medical insurance policy
-his retirement
-his ALPA contract work rules and protections
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Old 17th Sep 2016, 16:18   #125 (permalink)
 
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Or he was fascinated with the new fantastic lifestyle rostering on offer... who knows...
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Old 18th Sep 2016, 08:21   #126 (permalink)
 
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Or he had a abused childhood... maybe like he pain and suffering.. without the need to pay.
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Old 21st Sep 2016, 05:50   #127 (permalink)
 
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Contact info

Hello there,

Is there anyone who could help me with the contact person in HR or so... I have applied few months back however haven't heard them back since, except the auto generated mail saying they received my application.

Appreciate any inputs.

Thanks.
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Old 12th Oct 2017, 14:58   #128 (permalink)


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HKG Airlines entry

Hi guys, sorry if interrupt someone...
I have applied for HKG Airlines and got infor about a technical test before a Sim Assessment.
Do anybody has any idea what should be expected ?
Thanks
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Old 12th Oct 2017, 15:52   #129 (permalink)
 
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If u need help from PPRuNe then god help us 😂
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Old 12th Oct 2017, 17:00   #130 (permalink)
 
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Then suggest a place for Him to ask..stop being a snob here.
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Old 12th Oct 2017, 20:00   #131 (permalink)
 
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Try the Wannabe forum?
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Old 13th Oct 2017, 23:17   #132 (permalink)
 
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Gotta say there's an awful lot of negativity towards Hong Kong airlines here....... You guys have obviously worked there
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Old 14th Oct 2017, 11:14   #133 (permalink)
 
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When will the first A350 arrive? Are they replacements for the 330s or are they supplemental?
First one arrived 1st Sept.
2nd around 16 Nov and 3rd on 1st December.

They’ve offered 15 plus an additional 4.

Not to replace the A330.
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Old 17th Oct 2017, 03:19   #134 (permalink)
 
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Air Asia coming?
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Old 17th Oct 2017, 06:34   #135 (permalink)
 
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Yes..Air Asia coming to HK.. They want the Malaysian pilot back.. Malaysian license is a must.

19-20 October. Novotel City gate. 10-5pm..
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Old 17th Oct 2017, 08:57   #136 (permalink)
 
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No chance. Air Asia will wont plunder anyone. Not with their lavish payscales for around hk 40000 for skipper based in Penang.

Actually Air Asia X is the perfect hunting ground for HKA . And many guys already joined. So I hear lol.

No room for the CX moaning minnies with their griping culture. The lo$$ of their housing is so ironic. Its hilarious 😂.
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Old 17th Oct 2017, 09:32   #137 (permalink)
 
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No chance. Air Asia will wont plunder anyone.
So which one is it? Will or won't?
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Old 17th Oct 2017, 10:56   #138 (permalink)
 
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No room for the CX moaning minnies with their griping culture. The lo$$ of their housing is so ironic. Its hilarious .
Some of my CX mates are fed up and on their way. They are looking for renters for their properties if you want to upgrade from Tung Chung . Big lifestyle pads, try them on for a HKA ID discount?
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Old 17th Oct 2017, 12:33   #139 (permalink)
 
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We've Heard it all before Gandey. A whole lot of guys with big mouths on the DB bus. But when push comes to shove, well we know the answer there.

And honestly, where are they going? Retirement? possibly. To JetStar? Good luck with that.

To The crusty old types from Wan*ers corridor in CX city, you've had a great run of it. No denying that. But the worlds changing. Don't be bitter, LOL.

And try running a HK property when you are not in HK. I won't be getting my AirCon fixed, when the landlords on Bondi beach, sunning there white bits.

Dan, funny. Go figure
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Old 17th Oct 2017, 15:05   #140 (permalink)
 
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A370. You’re right it’s been a great run...time to retire...won’t work for peanuts....will be thinking of you.

Oh, and no point renting out the house..might as well cash it in....

Best of luck with your diminishing future prospects at HKA.

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