KA FO Position - Schooling Fees and Rent in HK
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Nearly as convincing as the level two email we got a few years back trying to convince us that 80 hour MPLs were going to be so much better than 200 hour cadets... As one of the posts on your link states Gnadenberg, "Living the dream!" 
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Is this the crux of it? CX and KA don't want people with families or those who are in relationships; as they have potential to create families? You should either be a life serving bachelor or bachelorette, gay (and not wishing for children), a divorcee that cannot afford to have another relationship (you probably can't afford HKG then) or a social reprobate that hates people.
I hope their recruitment goes well.
I hope their recruitment goes well.
Another self inflicted Time Bomb that Cathay Managers have dreamed up. Basings (or lack of) is one, promotion to Captain when living on a Base is another and now, the inability of a Senior First Officer ( in a few years time) to have a lifestyle that in any way resembles what he/she could enjoy at 'home'. When the going was good our divorce rate was high - just think of what's to come.
All signed off by 'People Managers' on 100,000 HKD a month housing packages and all the Expat benefits you can think of. Typical 'Do what I say - not what I do'.
Lead from behind chaps - very impressive!
All signed off by 'People Managers' on 100,000 HKD a month housing packages and all the Expat benefits you can think of. Typical 'Do what I say - not what I do'.
Lead from behind chaps - very impressive!
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Caring is a bonus diversion.
I'm amused and find it ironical that people have to think about living in Cambodia because THE company can't face upto its social responsibility to provide adequately for its employees. It's more than happy to take all the profits, but not put anything back. Where's the Hong Kong Government on this? Head up its Beijing hole?
Nothing to do with the HK Government I'm afraid. People join CX trying to live the dream and for some it may work initially. As a young, single mid 20's expat sharing a small 700 sq ft flat somewhere with a mate or two and jetting around the world occasionally would be good fun and do-able. Add a wife and 2 kids to that mix and 'do-able' becomes 'impossible' pretty quickly - especially when you throw in schooling. Lending them money by 'forgiveable loan' is a pretty thoughtless carrot which will just tempt people who want a job.
The future CX aircraft will be flown by locals living with their parents, expats commuting from Cambodia and an elite few who get a Base in their home country knowing that it could be closed at any moment because our cheapskate Leaders haven't done their homework and somebody has to pay!
May take a decade or two but those pass pretty fast these days.
The future CX aircraft will be flown by locals living with their parents, expats commuting from Cambodia and an elite few who get a Base in their home country knowing that it could be closed at any moment because our cheapskate Leaders haven't done their homework and somebody has to pay!
May take a decade or two but those pass pretty fast these days.
The special allowance for First Officers more than covers accommodation in REP.
A workable strategy would be for three F/O's to share a small apartment in Tung Chung and the change should cover a nice pad in REP.
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A workable strategy would be for three F/O's to share a small apartment in Tung Chung and the change should cover a nice pad in REP.
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So to set things straight!
KA and CX are now commuting jobs to third world countries and not your home, without any of the perks of a commuting contract?
Sounds just perfect. A new benchmark has been set to LCC's.
KA and CX are now commuting jobs to third world countries and not your home, without any of the perks of a commuting contract?
Sounds just perfect. A new benchmark has been set to LCC's.
Curious...nobody mentions commuting from Macau...is there a reason?
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Might change when the bridge goes in, but a bus ride full of mainland gamblers after a 12 hour duty? Better off applying to China Southern, China Eastern or Air China if that floats your boat BlankBox.
KA contracts are NOT commutable, guys do their best with the system that exists, not a single one of the commuters would say it is a workable lifestyle choice, they do it so they can give their families a chance at breathing air that won't kill them prematurely, in a home that they can fit in. Hong Kong doesn't offer either of these, you simply need to decide if the current contract adequately compensates you for living in one of the most expensive cities for expats on earth, and living in one of the filthiest environments on earth. Not my observation, have a look at how many days a year HK is listed as below "Hazardous to health" by the WHO. Unfortunately, those few days it was breathable, I was in the mainland, where it wasn't below WHO hazardous levels.
At the end of the day, expats are a 'necessary evil' that CX and KA will ditch the moment they think we are no longer required. It will happen in our career spans. Current recruiting trends have bitten them badly, but you can see what the directive from above was. Nationalize.
KA contracts are NOT commutable, guys do their best with the system that exists, not a single one of the commuters would say it is a workable lifestyle choice, they do it so they can give their families a chance at breathing air that won't kill them prematurely, in a home that they can fit in. Hong Kong doesn't offer either of these, you simply need to decide if the current contract adequately compensates you for living in one of the most expensive cities for expats on earth, and living in one of the filthiest environments on earth. Not my observation, have a look at how many days a year HK is listed as below "Hazardous to health" by the WHO. Unfortunately, those few days it was breathable, I was in the mainland, where it wasn't below WHO hazardous levels.
At the end of the day, expats are a 'necessary evil' that CX and KA will ditch the moment they think we are no longer required. It will happen in our career spans. Current recruiting trends have bitten them badly, but you can see what the directive from above was. Nationalize.
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Lowkoons post #12 is spot on wrt schooling young children in hk....not to mention high school age. ... It's no longer possible on CX or KA pilot contracts. If your other half is working for a company in hk that still assists then that's ok. But don't come here thinking you will be giving your children a better education than (really Cambodia) is that what people are doing now?
Lowkoons post #12 is spot on wrt schooling young children in hk....not to mention high school age. ... It's no longer possible on CX or KA pilot contracts. If your other half is working for a company in hk that still assists then that's ok. But don't come here thinking you will be giving your children a better education than (really Cambodia) is that what people are doing now?
