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Hong Kong Express

Old 5th Mar 2018, 06:23
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What's the pay like? Enough to enjoy at least 2 cups of instant noodles a day?
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Old 6th Mar 2018, 13:41
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Your queries about salary are answered within the first 5 pages of this thread.
Too difficult? Don’t bother applying.....
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Old 7th Mar 2018, 04:02
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Originally Posted by yellowcontrails
What's the pay like? Enough to enjoy at least 2 cups of instant noodles a day?
From what I can tell, Second officers at CX are earning more than an FO at HKE
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Old 7th Mar 2018, 04:30
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And neither airline will be able to keep their pilots. The exodus is underway.
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Old 7th Mar 2018, 05:54
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hey dste24, whens your interview? I have an interview with them also .

can you PM me

Thanks
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Old 7th Mar 2018, 11:31
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Originally Posted by dste24
Hey, I’ll be going to the non-typed interview as well. Find out any more valuable information about the sim portion?
Hey just that a briefing will be given prior to the sim portion about what's expected. When is your assessment? My own is march 14
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Old 23rd Mar 2018, 02:38
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Air Asia...HK?!

https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/65588-hna-group-airasia-group-in-talks-over-asset-sales

AirAsia Group Chief Executive Officer, Tony Fernandes, says the Malaysia-based budget carrier holding has discussed possible acquisitions with HNA Group.

In an interview with the Nikkei Asian Review, Fernandes said he had met HNA co-founder and Chairman Wang Jian and spoke with him about possible cooperation between the sides, adding that he "for sure" would consider acquiring unspecified businesses from the ailing Chinese conglomerate.

On whether AirAsia Group was interested in acquiring HNA Group's interests in Hong Kong Express (UO, Hong Kong Chek Lap Kok) and Hong Kong Airlines (HX, Hong Kong Chek Lap Kok) Hong Kong Airlines and Hong Kong Express, which are owned by HNA, Fernandes said, "We are always interested in whatever opportunities go our way." He went on to highlight that discussions with Wang have so far not been about airlines in Hong Kong specifically.

HNA Group has been disposing of its various assets as well as equity in its operations as a means of raising liquidity to meet debt repayment deadlines.

According to Bloomberg News, Hainan Airlines Holdings is planning to sell some of its office buildings and hotels in Beijing and Shanghai to cover its maturing debt. The carrier holding has a total of nine properties up for sale, with an estimated book value of CNY14 billion yuan (USD2.2 billion).

Among the assets for sale include the Shanghai NHA Tower, the Shanghai Yangtze International Enterprise Plaza, and the Renaissance Shanghai Pudong Hotel.
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Old 23rd Mar 2018, 18:14
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Originally Posted by airdualbleedfault
Pull back on the side stick, houses get smaller, push forward, houses get bigger. Remember this and you will be a HKE gun
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Old 12th Apr 2018, 22:05
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How does the salary at HK Express compares with Honk Kong Airlines?
I heard that the life at HK Express is not that bad compared with HKA due to less layovers and less flying days. Anyone care to give some inputs?
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Old 16th Apr 2018, 22:11
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Hi guys, can anyone at HK Express give us an idea of the rosters? eg. Layovers if any?
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Old 18th Apr 2018, 22:32
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The last post could be a cut & paste from life on the A320 at Cathay Dragon .

Seems HKE and KA have much in common regarding rostering. And crew appreciation. Or lack of.
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Old 19th Apr 2018, 14:26
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Another useless management, with no idea of the chaos they will soon be dealing with. All the HK airlines are management by morons. They will soon realise just how difficult it is to have aircraft operate without pilots. They deserve the misery they will create for themselves.
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Old 19th Apr 2018, 18:09
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A HKE CAPT was in the Labour Court today suing them for constructive dismissal.
Best of luck to him.
They never learn. Abusing pilots is in their nature.
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Old 20th Apr 2018, 01:16
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This job sucks

Been there more than a year. First of all, living in HK sucks. Everything that everyone said on this forum about the high costs, small apartments, etc. but my biggest issue personally is there is just way too many people. Way too many. Taking the buses and trains with the way they drive them makes you feel like a ping pong ball and that too becomes tiring.

I’ve been going to HK for 7 years but this is the first time I actually lived there. Maybe I need more time who knows.

I can tell you this about HKE. Training is horrible. CAE has so many differences between what they do and what HKE wants.They could care less about airmanship, common sense, or stick and rudder. As long as you can be s robotic monkey, act like a parakeet, and sing the FMA changes you’ll be fine.

There is no line training here just checking and your expected to know all the paperwork, SOP, etc perfectly from day one. If you don’t believe me then come here and you’ll see.

I knew what the pay was and the schedule before coming here so I won’t mention this but what I didn’t know is just how bad the training is and how many people are let go during line checks for very minor things.
Very pedantic here, robotic and a crap environment. Now, once you get past the line check then it’s peaches and crepe in as far as the crews you work with.

The pay needs to come way up, the schedule needs to get better with more days off, and then this would be a good job. Right now it sucks
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Old 20th Apr 2018, 08:51
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Turkpilot, the crowds are getting to me too. It’s worse at certain times of the year, and lately (Easter?) it was especially bad. Most often it’s worst around major holidays, especially the Chinese holidays, when mainlanders flood into the city.
For people who have never experienced the daily human crush it might seem a trivial complaint, but the longer you stay the more it grinds you down. You just can’t escape the shoving, the pushing, the blocking, the endless chattering of a million voices wittering on in an alien language. The ignorant self centred behaviour which you eventually come to realise is deeply symptomatic of their utter disregard for the rest of humanity. That’s THEIR coping mechanism. To them - nobody else exists. They are alone in a crowd, day dreaming, weaving randomly, staring at their phone screen, diving out of doorways into your path. They never give way. Never ‘filter through the traffic’. There’s no ‘pardon me’ or ‘excuse me’ or ‘sorry!’. They hold their ground, they’ll walk through you if you don’t step aside. They’d step over you if you dropped dead on the floor.
The worst part is you eventually start to act like they do. It’s the only way to make progress down a street! By pushing back. Give them the evil eye. A fit of hoarse coughing and sneezing works a treat - they’re all hypochondriacs and they’ll run a mile from your germs.

Anyone planning to work in Hong Kong should read this Blog. Have a good dig around. It’s hilarious. But sadly, all too true.
https://ihatehongkong2.wordpress.com...guest-speaker/
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Old 20th Apr 2018, 09:47
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Spot on. They never hold the door for you. Walking in the MTR is a hazard because these local zombies can’t walk without staring at their phone so they wind up smacking into me all the time. I got to the point I dodgeball and just slam my way into them with no “excuse me” to try to teach them life doesn’t exist on an iPhone. OMG thr language. I’m not sure which is worse Cantonese or putonghua but my god the way they talk gives me a migraine. Their are only two levels of volume here, OFF and EXTREME. Yes, they are extremely non spatial oriented, there is no one else in the universe except them.
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Old 20th Apr 2018, 13:18
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Originally Posted by Killaroo
A HKE CAPT was in the Labour Court today suing them for constructive dismissal.
Best of luck to him.
They never learn. Abusing pilots is in their nature.
well..wat did he do wrong? always two sides of a story
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Old 20th Apr 2018, 13:23
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Originally Posted by Turkpilot
Been there more than a year. First of all, living in HK sucks. Everything that everyone said on this forum about the high costs, small apartments, etc. but my biggest issue personally is there is just way too many people. Way too many. Taking the buses and trains with the way they drive them makes you feel like a ping pong ball and that too becomes tiring.

I’ve been going to HK for 7 years but this is the first time I actually lived there. Maybe I need more time who knows.

I can tell you this about HKE. Training is horrible. CAE has so many differences between what they do and what HKE wants.They could care less about airmanship, common sense, or stick and rudder. As long as you can be s robotic monkey, act like a parakeet, and sing the FMA changes you’ll be fine.

There is no line training here just checking and your expected to know all the paperwork, SOP, etc perfectly from day one. If you don’t believe me then come here and you’ll see.

I knew what the pay was and the schedule before coming here so I won’t mention this but what I didn’t know is just how bad the training is and how many people are let go during line checks for very minor things.
Very pedantic here, robotic and a crap environment. Now, once you get past the line check then it’s peaches and crepe in as far as the crews you work with.

The pay needs to come way up, the schedule needs to get better with more days off, and then this would be a good job. Right now it sucks
mm..i remember you sometime back about getting into HKE. Life's took a change eh buddy? Well..hope it will work for you. Your point about people let go for minor things in line checks? you mean get sacked??
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Old 20th Apr 2018, 15:47
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Originally Posted by bmw216gt
well..wat did he do wrong? always two sides of a story
You’re right. I heard he didn’t kiss ass hard enough. So he deserved it.
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Old 20th Apr 2018, 15:58
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Originally Posted by Turkpilot
Spot on. They never hold the door for you. Walking in the MTR is a hazard because these local zombies can’t walk without staring at their phone so they wind up smacking into me all the time. I got to the point I dodgeball and just slam my way into them with no “excuse me” to try to teach them life doesn’t exist on an iPhone. OMG thr language. I’m not sure which is worse Cantonese or putonghua but my god the way they talk gives me a migraine. Their are only two levels of volume here, OFF and EXTREME. Yes, they are extremely non spatial oriented, there is no one else in the universe except them.
I remember my first trip to London after a significant stretch working in Hong Kong. I was in Covent Garden, a quite busy part of the city. I had a strange feeling I couldn’t at first put my finger on. Then I realised what it was.....the unusual absence of a few hundred raised voices assaulting my ears! No wittering chattering background roar. And the street was easy to pass down. No pushing or shoving. Just calm and civilised behaviour.

It’s funny how the ‘little things’ you once took for granted in life become so much more significant once they’re gone.
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