Hotel quality in Cathay

[Mr Angry from Purley]

1. How can I get a decent rest when the curtains are so rubbish that I can't darken the room?
2. How can I get a decent rest when the temperature control is non-existent?
3. How can I get a decent rest when said temperature control unit is rattling all day & night?
4. How can I get a decent rest when the noise from the surrounding neighbourhood can't be filtered from my room?
5. How can I feel safe going out for food at some weird hour (jet-lag) because if I turn right instead of left out the front door I'm in gang territory?

Cut the emotion and just report the facts as above. Yes you can ring your boss at 0300 HKG time but if not do it the next day/time you see him. If its that bad go see him in the Office, ask him to visit etc. There is a risk you'll end up at the airport but then these should be avoided as you get greater throughput (noise)
OK at some places you get the odd rogue Hotel but given CX buying power they should get Hotels throwing their business at them.

Lastly, the key question about Hotel suitability is would the Captain stay there if he was paying for it himself - the answer is of course Yes.......

[Sam Ting Wong]

Sounds reasonable. I still haven't lossed complete faith in some guys on the third floor, actually my impression is they share the general sentiment regarding hotel quality.

I suggest to name and shame, politely and factual, the hotels in question.

I think the worst of the bunch at the moment are:

****ty Plaza, Tayoan
S.F.
Narita
Chicago ( Freighter)
Park Inn Heathrow
Bangkok
Paris

(Headland out of the competition)

[broadband circuit]

Comfort Inn NGO

[Master Caution]

White None is on the money.
BTW That part of Van Ness is way safer than O'Farrell around the old hotel in the middle if the night.

[wheels up]

I think the worst of the bunch at the moment are:

****ty Plaza, Tayoan
S.F.
Narita
Chicago ( Freighter)
Park Inn Heathrow
Bangkok
Paris

San Fran is cr@p, especially compared to the hotels we used to stay in there. Have stayed in better 20$ motels.

What about Toronto Horrible Inn - its rubbish - had to move rooms twice last time I was there - the room I ended up with had a noisy window aircon stuck behind the curtains, that didn't seal out the light either.

If you like sleeping on concrete the Narita hotel is great - had a couple of completely sleepless nights there.

Korean and Japanese hotels seem to think that in winter you don't need air-conditioning, with the result that you end up waking up at 3 am in a cooking room - choose between opening the window and getting kept awake by the noise or getting kept awake by the heat.

Park Inn has recently been renovated and is actually a lot better now. On the last visit all of the crockery at breakfast was filthy - literally went through about 20 plates trying to find a reasonably clean one

Bangkok and Paris I don't mind, although the Paris hotel is in a bit of a dodgy area ie. France.

[AnAmusedReader]

Mr Angry, your advice to Broadband was totally wrong.

If his points 1 to 4 occur, he should not operate as he would be clearly fatigued and, therefore, unsafe to operate. He should call in unfit for duty and submit an ASR-F.

[Joejetjock]

Cathay Pacific Low Cost Airline

That's us now.

[China Flyer]

I wonder if the AOA would consider providing a proforma that we could fill out. (on the back of some new note pads?)

It could have a list of "mission critical" items and other nice-to-have things.

A scale of 1 to 5 (with 4 being the average, of course); or simply Acceptable or Not Acceptable.

I realise that all this can be put into a CAR or ASR, but maybe this could be a way of the AOA gathering the info (drop into their mail box after a flight?) for future use?

[bangout]

You have the comic appeal of getting gang banged by Dr Harold Shipman and Adolf Hitler

[HotDog]

TT, what made you change your moniker from "The Management?

[Captain Dart]

It's not the same guy. The Management was incisive and ironic with a deep insight in to how the real 'management' think. His posts were entertaining and witty, and he retired years ago.

This 'tony' clown is a very poor copy and judging by the spelling and grammar, I don't think English is his first language.

[jacobus]

Nor, it would appear from Mach no comments etc., is he a pilot. I sincerely hope not. Having said that who knows these days ?