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I guess getting extra pay by the hour is the reason the HKA aircraft are taxing so god damn slow
I've heard HKG-ATC yell at them to please hurry up a few times in the past week!!!.. Clearly these guys are going as slow as possibly can
All about the $$$ or lack of....
I've heard HKG-ATC yell at them to please hurry up a few times in the past week!!!.. Clearly these guys are going as slow as possibly can
All about the $$$ or lack of....
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interesting... BC
haven't you ever seen any KA or CX aircraft taxiing at 2kts after leaving 25R from the very last high speed to the gate... and you never suspect any of those Crews are in their overtime?
haven't you ever seen any KA or CX aircraft taxiing at 2kts after leaving 25R from the very last high speed to the gate... and you never suspect any of those Crews are in their overtime?
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I back up what ChinaBeached wrote.
I also have HKA CoS and the numbers he posted are correct.
I also know that the pay's the same for A320 guys and they'r doing about 75h/m. It depends only on your flying CV.
FO base pay depend on your Jet time:
<1500h = 25.000
1500-3000= 35.000
>3000h = 45.000
Then add:
50h garanteed pay = (~13750)
50h-75h = 450
>76h = 650
(+11250 for 75h monthly)
MBA = 20.000
CNY Productivity Bonus of 30k 1st year, 45k on the 2nd and 60k on the 3rd.
That's an average monthly gross salary of:
<1500 jet h = 70.000
<3000 jet h = 80.000
>3000 jet h = 90.000
Plus the yearly CNY BONUS.
KA pays better? How long you have to wait for a shot at a LH positionin KA? What about CX?
What if you're not a 26y old pilot and can't afford another decade (or 2) for a career upgrade?
Just guiving out some food for your brains to digest.
Cheers.
I also have HKA CoS and the numbers he posted are correct.
I also know that the pay's the same for A320 guys and they'r doing about 75h/m. It depends only on your flying CV.
FO base pay depend on your Jet time:
<1500h = 25.000
1500-3000= 35.000
>3000h = 45.000
Then add:
50h garanteed pay = (~13750)
50h-75h = 450
>76h = 650
(+11250 for 75h monthly)
MBA = 20.000
CNY Productivity Bonus of 30k 1st year, 45k on the 2nd and 60k on the 3rd.
That's an average monthly gross salary of:
<1500 jet h = 70.000
<3000 jet h = 80.000
>3000 jet h = 90.000
Plus the yearly CNY BONUS.
KA pays better? How long you have to wait for a shot at a LH positionin KA? What about CX?
What if you're not a 26y old pilot and can't afford another decade (or 2) for a career upgrade?
Just guiving out some food for your brains to digest.
Cheers.
Last edited by Madp1lot; 20th Sep 2013 at 08:16.
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Off topic for a minute, BTC-GC, I cant speak for CX, but KA are limited to single engine taxi, hence the slow speed. Just another way we are giving back to all the people who voted us the worlds best regional airline! 
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Lowkoon what a load of crap you're spilling!! I've seen your KA A320 zooming at breackneck speed on taxiway H only to slow to a walking pace halfway way down the taxiway! What were you trying to give back to the people that voted for you "Fast and Furious" Say it like it is, you guys are not whiter then white
KA pays better? How long you have to wait for a shot at a LH positionin KA?
I've seen your KA A320 zooming at breackneck speed on taxiway H only to slow to a walking pace halfway way down the taxiway!
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Anyway guys you are all missing the point.... If you had experience you wouldn't join HKA nor CX nor KA... Why?
HKA...Is crap money
KA...8 years to command to fly an A320 around China
CX.....12 years + to command?
Why not goto Emirates or Etihad?
I know for a fact its 3.5 years to Command at Etihad on a B777....
Crap money or not crap money, no experience or no experience or crap management running the airline...why would u waste your time in HKG unless you really really wanted to live here??...The good days of this industry are all but gone.. You need housing allowance and education allowance to survive as a married with children situation in hkg....And none of the above seem to cut it at moment...
HKA...Is crap money
KA...8 years to command to fly an A320 around China
CX.....12 years + to command?
Why not goto Emirates or Etihad?
I know for a fact its 3.5 years to Command at Etihad on a B777....
Crap money or not crap money, no experience or no experience or crap management running the airline...why would u waste your time in HKG unless you really really wanted to live here??...The good days of this industry are all but gone.. You need housing allowance and education allowance to survive as a married with children situation in hkg....And none of the above seem to cut it at moment...
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Whatever salaries and conditions are on offer,the stories around the Harbour is that they lack a lot of wide-body experience,in LVO,Etops,long haul,basic airmanship, as incidents have shown since the start.
As a young F/O ,you don't want to pick up bad habits for the sake of hours, and with an HKA background for any length of time you are more than likely NOT to be accepted by a reputable airline in the future.
Be careful, it isn't worth it.
As a young F/O ,you don't want to pick up bad habits for the sake of hours, and with an HKA background for any length of time you are more than likely NOT to be accepted by a reputable airline in the future.
Be careful, it isn't worth it.
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Use them like they use others, or stay well clear!
HKA's culture and management are the worst in Aviation and that includes the mainland airlines north of the border.
If you enjoy being treated like sh1t, have your contract changed at any time, and hearing the words "if you do not like it there is the door" (in CRM class by the infamous WuWu)
Then join HKA or HKE.
One thing will never change, that is it's is a great place to get a type rating then Pi$$off to a better airline.
If you enjoy being treated like sh1t, have your contract changed at any time, and hearing the words "if you do not like it there is the door" (in CRM class by the infamous WuWu)
Then join HKA or HKE.One thing will never change, that is it's is a great place to get a type rating then Pi$$off to a better airline.
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I know HKA does not get very many positive comments here,but I do like HK.I think they need A-320 Capts but I get nothing from them...nada...zilch.Do they have the 55 age cutoff there like mainland?
Tagalog?
Mine is in Franglaise.
Speaking of which - is there anything more bizarre in aviation than a Portuguese/Kraut/Filipino 'instructor' telling native English speakers how to interpret Franglaise?
Mine is in Franglaise.
Speaking of which - is there anything more bizarre in aviation than a Portuguese/Kraut/Filipino 'instructor' telling native English speakers how to interpret Franglaise?
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Could someone please provide me with a Hr phone number for Hong Kong airlines/express, or even an insider e-mail, I know they are not the most popular crowd but for family reasons I need a HK job
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Not surprised, even the office staff are leaving its that bad.Unless you are Phillipino, forget it, as they are the only ones getting promoted and taking over.
Better join Cebu Pacific and take advantage of cheaper housing and nicer weather.
Better join Cebu Pacific and take advantage of cheaper housing and nicer weather.