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Its hard to get a pay rise when people work for less in the left hand seat than those in the right hand seat.
I wonder if it it is widely known in the industry that a significant number of captains have taken commands on 747 for less money and conditions than FOs.
I wonder if it it is widely known in the industry that a significant number of captains have taken commands on 747 for less money and conditions than FOs.
That was IMHO what was so great about CX until a few years ago, the great career choices available: want to make loads of money? Hey, join as an S/O (or do your three years of "penance" as a based freighter F/O then come to HKG), then start collecting houses and boats. Oh, you're more of a lifestyle junkie? No problem, join as a DEFO on a base, do your three years of freight and then never see another freighter again (ah, the days of FACA), work twelve days a month max and sleep for half the flight. Prefer a widebody command in your basing area? Well, the rosters won't be wonderful and the pass rate on the Classic isn't great, but if you can stomach that, could you start, er let's see, yesterday?
As we all know most of these are choices have been pruned away (as have many other of the reasons to be here, temp bases, base swaps etc etc), but getting upset at colleagues who legitimately chose a different career path to the one you chose doesn't help.
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FCNs make 15% more than an FO with the same time in service on the unified pay scale.
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so do pax Cpts in Cx my friend! But even more $$$. This is a discussion of cx frtr (freighter) cns (captains) vs (versus) fo (first officer) pay (pay)
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Sorry Sodapop, but if you are saying that CX pax captains make more than those at the US legacies, you are indeed wrong. We are now FAR behind with the new contracts at Delta, United, and American.
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Seat warming indeed gives you more money at entry level but in long term, your upgrade and hours are just small peanuts compared to your fellow counterparts in other major airlines overseas. 
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Boxman,
Sorry, I didn't allude to the fact that they make more $$$ than the US majors, only that they make more of a % when compared to FO pay for same time in service.
The Euro pax scales do come pretty close to US pay when you convert. Of course, the buying power then differs depending on where you are taxed etc.
Soda
Sorry, I didn't allude to the fact that they make more $$$ than the US majors, only that they make more of a % when compared to FO pay for same time in service.
The Euro pax scales do come pretty close to US pay when you convert. Of course, the buying power then differs depending on where you are taxed etc.
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Yo Nit,
We did it to make more $$$ buddy.
Everything is economics my friend. There is no jumping of seniority, view my statement regarding FedEx, when everyone in the company has the chance to bid for the same position.
Ex-ASL excluded, of course. However, even when they or the ex-Oasis were added to the seniority list, all had another chance to go for the frtr.
Soda
We did it to make more $$$ buddy.
Everything is economics my friend. There is no jumping of seniority, view my statement regarding FedEx, when everyone in the company has the chance to bid for the same position.
Ex-ASL excluded, of course. However, even when they or the ex-Oasis were added to the seniority list, all had another chance to go for the frtr.
Soda
I am embarrassed.
If the travelling public knew of the lack of maturity that inhabited forward of the flight deck door they would catch the bloody train.
Please, try growing up.
If the travelling public knew of the lack of maturity that inhabited forward of the flight deck door they would catch the bloody train.
Please, try growing up.
Curtain -Rod,
Get up-to-date. If you are as behind at everything else as you are at researching the B744 rosters I would hate to have you on my F/D.
Hardly any ULH flights. Top 5 get those almost every time, Lots of Reserve 'cos we're rated for both Freight and Pax. Lots of split duties and local flights. A 7 day Freighter pattern with a block of 5 G's afterwards is a jolly
Get up-to-date. If you are as behind at everything else as you are at researching the B744 rosters I would hate to have you on my F/D.
Hardly any ULH flights. Top 5 get those almost every time, Lots of Reserve 'cos we're rated for both Freight and Pax. Lots of split duties and local flights. A 7 day Freighter pattern with a block of 5 G's afterwards is a jolly
