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Jetstar Hong Kong SCMP

Old 25th Aug 2012, 07:04
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Thumbs up Jetstar Hong Kong SCMP

Just saw Jetstar ad for drivers in today's South China Morning Post.
They're quoting 18 x320's by 2015 - Bigger than first thought?

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Old 25th Aug 2012, 09:27
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Did they publish the T&Cs?
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Old 25th Aug 2012, 09:38
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No. But as "Low Cost" really means "Low Overheads", prepare to be underwhelmed.
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Old 25th Aug 2012, 11:05
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Where training is required to gain an endorsement prior to being employed, the cost of gaining the endorsement (Airbus or Boeing) is borne by the applicant. Applicants will be offered the opportunity to enter into an Endorsement Agreement which will allow them to repay the cost incurred over a period of time.
Straight fm JETSTAR HKG website ...
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Old 25th Aug 2012, 14:10
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Great Stat

That's a great stat WW, joined 12 years ago and your first post!
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Old 26th Aug 2012, 01:49
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WW certainly can't be classed as impetuous!
Great self control for so many years. 2 beers and I'm all over a keyboard, speeeling mistakes and all!

The T&C's will no doubt be so woeful that no self-respecting first world pilot will take them. So standby for Eastern Euro's, dodgy South American and possibly dubious credentialed Asians and curry munchers to make up the first intake in this latest race to the bottom for "How low can you go" terms and conditions.

Bets on how long from start operation to first 'incident' anyone?

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Old 26th Aug 2012, 02:29
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Another HKA over the horizon
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Old 26th Aug 2012, 03:59
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I think HKA pilots will probably jump ship to Jetstar...as they say from the pot to the fire!
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Old 27th Aug 2012, 04:17
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When asked by some ex KA drivers how they intend to do it better, the reply from management was that "they will do a turn around in 25 minutes." Ok, so they call ready earlier, only to be told "Delay undetermined.." Bring it on low cost heroes! China will smash that business model pretty quick.

Blank stares followed when this was explained to them.
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Old 27th Aug 2012, 04:39
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Too true.

....or when mainland pax refuse to disembark until receiving compensation for the delay or better still they open L2 while taxiing and storm the apron again refusing to budge until they receive compensation (for some reason??!). Try enforcing the closure of check-in 30 mins before departure whereby the ticket is therefore forfeited with the mainland crowd. In Oz, the US & UK (for example) pax will kick up a stink BUT they follow the rules. The Chinese mainland is another (unruly) beast entirely.
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Old 27th Aug 2012, 04:42
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Their HK head of operations is ex KA - he will know that. I hope he has explained to his boss that a whole schedule based on 25 minute turnarounds in the PRC will mean half of their flights will have to be cancelled!
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Old 27th Aug 2012, 04:52
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Lowkoon,

Excellent point.

Whilst they see their comparative advantage as the 25 min turnaround on a 180 seat aircraft, their competitor CX/KA turns a 300 seat aircraft around in one hour. Included in that 1 hour turnaround is the loading of Freight which is a Revenue Stream a LCC can only dream about (unless of course they own a Cargo Terminal and logistic's network based in HK)

Still, it's in CX/ Swire interest for the LCCs to give it try, for who will be selling them the Fuel, maintaining their aircraft, provisioning their aircraft, transporting their passengers to those "cost saving remote bays", none other than HAECO, Cathay Pacific Catering and HAS.

And should a LCC start to eat CX's lunch, CX will super discounted 30 tickets per flight on the LCC's competing route, thereby lowering the LCC's load factor to an unsustainable level. Who do think will run out cash first? I think Oasis lasted a year.

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Old 2nd Sep 2012, 21:38
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anyone has submiited their application with response from jetstar??
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Old 3rd Sep 2012, 03:56
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LG, terrific post.

I do believe that Jetstar HK are going to get spit-roasted by CX and Swire.

The stupidity of that QF group rat, and his henchmen amaze me. Still, desperate measures call...
 
Old 3rd Sep 2012, 09:37
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News is that their application is about to be rejected by the CAD
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Old 3rd Sep 2012, 09:44
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That would be just like their first applications for Cat 2/3 ops & Rnpar. The list of failures is long, even in a country where their parent company has a strong influence over the regulator.

They only know of one way to do things..... cheaply & half arsed.
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Old 6th Sep 2012, 04:26
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Anybody got any gen re the T&C's yet?
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Old 21st Sep 2012, 08:46
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The goss I have is:

Line Captain:
150K hkd sign on bonus (paid back if you leave after 2 yrs)
145K + hkd per month

LTC:
150K hkd sign on bonus
162K + hkd per month

TRE/IRE:
150K hkd sign on bonus
168K + hkd per month

Sorry, wasn't applying for FO - don't know the deal

They're still hiring and will be for some time with the delivery schedule I reckon!
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Old 21st Sep 2012, 15:10
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Thumbs down

$$$ don't seem worth the hassle. Probably better off at one of the private jet Co's....
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Old 21st Sep 2012, 16:28
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There is no way in the world that a low cost carrier will pay 50K per month more than CX or Dragonair. Nor will it be able to sustain it. Good luck.
 

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