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At a horse stud farm in SA within the last few months and the owner was bemoaning the fact that he sends hundreds of horses a year to Hong Kong, China and Japan, and also to Oz.
Guess what, he has to send them via Europe (not a veterinarian requirement) as there are no good carriers SA to Asia.
But then Cattle from Melbourne seemed such a good idea at the time...
Africa is filling up with mainland managers in many businesses. but you'd have to pay serious millions to get a HKCX manager into that dark continent.
Guess what, he has to send them via Europe (not a veterinarian requirement) as there are no good carriers SA to Asia.
But then Cattle from Melbourne seemed such a good idea at the time...
Africa is filling up with mainland managers in many businesses. but you'd have to pay serious millions to get a HKCX manager into that dark continent.
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I heard recently that we are starting ops into Luanda, Nairobi and Lagos. Lots of Chinese businesses that would love to fly direct from China/ Hong Kong.
In India, Hyderabad will shortly be a new Airbus destination, 3 or 4 times per week.
Looking at Mexico City and South America. Sao Paolo is still too far for a direct flight, but via Honolulu would be a good stop-over initially, and would pick up a little extra holiday traffic as nobody flies direct to HNL from HKG.
In India, Hyderabad will shortly be a new Airbus destination, 3 or 4 times per week.
Looking at Mexico City and South America. Sao Paolo is still too far for a direct flight, but via Honolulu would be a good stop-over initially, and would pick up a little extra holiday traffic as nobody flies direct to HNL from HKG.
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It's not about passenger volumes, it's about yields. On many routes into/out of Africa they would be low. Then you have to consider the logistical difficulties of operations, corruption, inefficiency, nepotism, cost of doing business in the region, and it can add up to a fairly unpromising picture.
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Are all of you suggesting we go to Africa out of your mind ?
ATC is a disaster, the hotels are lousy, nightstops would be horrible
Do yourself a favour before recommending new routes to the dark continent
spend a couple of weeks in Lagos , Luanda or Kinshasa . That should be long enough to change your mind. Ask the Virgin girls if they like Nigeria or why the BA crew get extra allowances for Nigerian flights
Be very careful what you wish for it's not called the dark continent for no good reason
ATC is a disaster, the hotels are lousy, nightstops would be horrible
Do yourself a favour before recommending new routes to the dark continent
spend a couple of weeks in Lagos , Luanda or Kinshasa . That should be long enough to change your mind. Ask the Virgin girls if they like Nigeria or why the BA crew get extra allowances for Nigerian flights
Be very careful what you wish for it's not called the dark continent for no good reason
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Table, just about everywhere north of the Limpopo has excellent yeilds for other carriers, sometimes the highest of that airline.
Then there are the excess baggage rates which can cover the fuel bill, have a look at the Kenya Airways check in on a good night. Unbelievable.
Then there are the excess baggage rates which can cover the fuel bill, have a look at the Kenya Airways check in on a good night. Unbelievable.
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Oriental,
I don't think airlines select new routes on the basis of how nice the layovers will be. It's a business, not a travel agent, and the fact is that there is A LOT of money to be made in Africa. 7 of the World's ten fastest growing economies are African and the continent is outpacing Asia. And yet our esteemed leaders appear never to have even heard of the place. Either that or they're scared of the place, but surely it couldn't be that!
Oh, and Emirates apparently starting a freighter service to Harare.
Personally I think we should add some frequencies to LA......
I don't think airlines select new routes on the basis of how nice the layovers will be. It's a business, not a travel agent, and the fact is that there is A LOT of money to be made in Africa. 7 of the World's ten fastest growing economies are African and the continent is outpacing Asia. And yet our esteemed leaders appear never to have even heard of the place. Either that or they're scared of the place, but surely it couldn't be that!
Oh, and Emirates apparently starting a freighter service to Harare.
Personally I think we should add some frequencies to LA......