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Should we Name & Shame G Day Workers?

Old 22nd Nov 2011, 07:51
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Should we Name & Shame G Day Workers?

It is now becoming apparent to me that G day workers are not only indirectly screwing us out of overtime, but directly screwing up our rosters. The latest trend seems to be working a G day to massage their rosters; often to allow a more commuter friendly roster.

Example, you call crew control after the last flight of a 3 day regional pattern to check for messages. You are told your O day has now become a Taipei split. Further research finds that 'some guy' worked on his G day to swap the Taipei split for a G day, thus insuring an uninterrupted block of time off for himself.

I used to think that naming and shaming was a step too far. I am now starting to think otherwise. Thoughts....?
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Old 22nd Nov 2011, 08:05
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Yes, I'm afraid that it should be done.


I would like any other way than this, but the events since '99 lead me to think there is no other way.

For once we could be doing something without waiting for the GC, who probably have their hands tied on this.

Shouldn't post after too many pops in the gay bar, but what the hell... it won't be me who gets named.
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Old 22nd Nov 2011, 08:23
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No ! Definitely not !!
They should be rostered to fly with Toss, that way they will never volunteer to work a G day again. Sure there will be some collateral damage with visits to the phsyc and wotnot, but desperate times ........
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Old 22nd Nov 2011, 08:32
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Unfortunately through proffering and swaps with others, quite often the real time roster will show someone flying on what was a G day on their published roster...doing it through legitimate means. How to tell someone who has worked a G day simply to help CC?
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Old 22nd Nov 2011, 09:08
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So if you're to publicly name people in this forum (presumably), I also presume you'd have the balls to put your name at the end of your post?
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Equally bad and more unsafe are those who do flights when not rested. This hides crew shortages

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Old 22nd Nov 2011, 10:12
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geh065

I understand where you are coming from with those who are proferring and could be wrongly fingered. I don't think trawling through the master roster is the way. But if you yourself are affected and you clearly didn't swap or profer it away, then you know that it can only be a G day worker.

Blogsey,

If you catch me working a G day or flying half asleep because I am commuting from half way around the world before my flight; then feel free to put my name up on pprune. I deserve it.
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Old 22nd Nov 2011, 13:59
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How do you expect to achieve anything by naming and shaming when AOA GC members (some) work on their G days? Start with the AOA, not PPRuNe.
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Old 22nd Nov 2011, 16:16
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oh god, here we go again....YAWN
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Old 22nd Nov 2011, 16:19
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Dumb idea. What happens when someone is incorrectly identified? How about it if was you? Sorry, but we need to design a better strategy of dealing with rostering. If the entire company is not willing to unite and fight the management for a proper rostering scheme, then singling out a few colleagues (rightly or wrongly) will not make much of a difference.
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Old 22nd Nov 2011, 18:11
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Yes, we should definitely post them, but not on here. They should be posted on the AOA forums where a member could defend him/herself from a known accuser. Non-members get stuffed! No one thinks much of them anyways.
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Old 22nd Nov 2011, 22:10
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So if you quit the AOA you can work on G days and if you stay you can't. We are brilliant.
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Old 22nd Nov 2011, 22:33
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Outstanding post Dan

..that grizzled smiley at the end really gives your response an intelligent, weighty edge
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Old 23rd Nov 2011, 00:10
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I enjoy working G Days when I want to, as I get more money. Plain and simple!!

The new iCadets will start doing it too when they get a chance. It will help make up for the poor housing conditions

Get used to it lads
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Old 23rd Nov 2011, 06:46
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I'm quite certain that there are too many readers unable to detect the sarcasm, so to clarify:

The large overtime payment you deny the other guy when you work a G day for the tiny G day callout pay is the same large overtime payment the other guy will deny you on another day.

There is a reason the company calls guys on G days while others are already sitting reserve as per their roster....and it's not to because they want to give the G day worker his tiny little bonus.
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Old 23rd Nov 2011, 11:32
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What about a new rule enforcing CC to call reserves before calling people on G days?
A day off is a day off, I don't want to be disturbed unless there is a GOOD reason for it.
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Old 23rd Nov 2011, 13:41
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Can we name and shame W pattern workers as well. My roster always gets put together after theirs has been attended to and that isn't fair.
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Hey MrClaus

Are you as stupid as you sound? Sure name and shame people then have the lawsuits for defamation pile up on your door step So go ahead. You must have nothing better to do. I will be sitting on my couch with a beer in hand watching it all unfold.

Maybe I'll bring popcorn as well

Idiots should be allowed to bred. Should put you down like my last dog.

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Old 24th Nov 2011, 07:13
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stillalbatross...just a thought but have you requested super compact rosters yourself?
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Old 24th Nov 2011, 08:43
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CokeZero

Sounds like you had one too many coke zeros today. Are you always that angry or is it possible that I touched a nerve with one of our G Day workers.

I feel though, that I must provide a translation of your last two sentences for those who speak English as their first language.

Idiots should be allowed to bred. Should put you down lie my last dog.
Translation: Idiots should NOT be allowed to BREED. Should put you down LIKE my last dog.
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