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Old 13th Jan 2012, 16:52
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Yea guys.....can't find any info on updated pilot salaries anywhere on the web....any info would be greatly appreciated. Saw something about Captains getting just under US$4K a month which I think is absurd or outdated.
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Old 14th Jan 2012, 20:51
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Hka pay

A buddy of mine works there and says the pay is around 10K USD but expensive for housing......
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Old 19th Jan 2012, 13:27
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Salary is like beatiful women...they more beer you drink the more of them you see
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Old 25th Jan 2012, 05:07
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What's the point coming to HKE ? We've lost Manila and as of March ... Sopporo. Is the demise of HKE near ?
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Old 27th Jan 2012, 23:57
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hi
i have an interview with HKA next 10 days so please tell me the truth, they said will give 8500 usd ,,is this ok for housing and to save some money and how much it cost to rent flat close to the airport
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Old 28th Jan 2012, 11:57
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Hong Kong Fooeey????

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Old 28th Jan 2012, 12:30
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hi
i have an interview with HKA next 10 days so please tell me the truth, they said will give 8500 usd is this ok for housing and to save some money and how much it cost to rent flat close to the airport
That salary is for a senior first officer. You will be on a much lower salary than that.
  • Salary for <1500 hours and <500 Jet you will get 27,000 per month
  • Experience on 737 but < 1500 hours jet you will get 40000 a month
  • >3000 hours Jet, you will get 65000 a month

Rents near the airport start at 25,000 Hong Kong Dollars a Month or $3225usd. That is for a small 1000sq ft (100sq meter) apartment in Discovery Bay. The nice expat life in the city is not possible on that salary. See for yourself.
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Old 28th Jan 2012, 12:35
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Depending on your total hours you will be required to sign a Bond for 30,000 USD and 3 years or 50,000 and 5 years if you are non type rated.
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Old 28th Jan 2012, 12:45
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Rents near the airport start at 25,000 Hong Kong Dollars a Month or $3225usd. That is for a small 1000sq ft (100sq meter) apartment in Discovery Bay. The nice expat life in the city is not possible on that salary. See for yourself.
I was in tung Chung today and saw rent for 1000sq apartment for $13,000. Before you start on about tung Chung etc, I would rather live there than DB anyday.
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Old 29th Jan 2012, 02:02
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The estates in Tung Chung all have much nicer private club facilities than the overpriced and very public facilities in Discovery Bay. You can also have a car, and get a 3 bedrm 1200 sq ft place for around $20,000.
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Old 29th Jan 2012, 05:56
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I too would recommend TC over DB, specially for someone working at the airport. Half the price, twice the convenience.

If TC's convenience is not your thing, then bring a big checkbook to Mid-Levels, where 25000HKD/mo in rent (5M to buy) should get you 450 sq. ft. and unlimited locations to buy your 60HKD beer.
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Old 29th Jan 2012, 06:35
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Tung Chung

It has been 3 years ago now, but lived in Caribbean Coast in a small (70 m2 or so) 2 Br 1 Ba that was livable (new and top floor - 65) for 2. Certainly 2nd Br was tiny and only used for storage, but for a couple of years, not horrible living. Right @ 1000 US. Shopping, eating and drinking a short walk, DB is a short bus ride (more places to eat and drink), and Hong Kong -a doable train ride away. In general, I was quite surprised how one could find quite reasonable places to eat and drink in 'downtown' Hong Kong - especially for lunch and during 'happy hours'. When first arrived, I was peaved at living 'not in town', but after looking, busy, busy place - that Hong Kong. Probably not a 'lifelong job' anyway......

Just my 2 cents .
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Old 29th Jan 2012, 13:11
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Probably the biggest issue for anyone considering moving to HKG is schooling.

Getting kids into a decent school can be difficult and very expensive. This is not just an issue for expats, since most locals are just as keen to get their kids into the same schools.

So, if you are considering bringing your kids to HKG, or starting a family soon after moving here, then you need to plan your finances accordingly.

One reason that DB is generally more expensive than TC is that there are more options for education for non Cantonese speaking kids.
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Old 2nd Feb 2012, 04:32
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What captains get per month in hke nowaday?
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Old 2nd Feb 2012, 13:08
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No options for schooling in Db unless you have 400k or more for a debenture. We have been in Hk 10 years and cannot even get an interview at dc or dibs. Even Kowloon junior.
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Old 5th Feb 2012, 08:16
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When you go for the interview at HKE ask how many hrs need to be flown to earn the promised salary and ask what the crews are actually flying now. You can expect to hear exactly what you want to as HKE management will look you straight in the eye and spout lie after lie. Do not trust these amatures. Also ask why so many flight crew have left and if the gmf x is still telling pilots to look down out L2 for the ground at minimums. Let's hope he dosen't crash a third aircraft.
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Old 25th Feb 2012, 05:30
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Just curious,

but

[in the HK SAR HKCAD region]

but can you record F-16 time as multi crew and multi engine if you are in formation? maybe this is just a regional procedure from the lyin' city...

(guess it is a toss up if it is better classified as Parker P-38 time)

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Old 25th Feb 2012, 06:13
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Something else to remember

When you come to Hong Kong and your filling in your appllication for pilots license,
when you get to the questions thats asks if you have ever had any accidents or incidents. Remember to tick NO even if you have had say, 2 in your previous jobs. They never checked upped on this so you will be fine to go into a management position no problems.
How do I know this?, Lets just say it worked for a good friend of mine



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Old 4th Mar 2012, 07:23
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x has to stay at HKE because there will be no other airlines who would touch him given his history. The amateur show continues. Let's hope his third prang is not in a 737. What a despicable character to think he has the credentials to supervise professionals. He fooled Khalid and Simon but everyone else sees him for what he is.
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Old 4th Mar 2012, 19:42
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I continue to shake my head and laugh at this pathetic individual. The email requesting to use the call sign "shuttle " instead of using the correct ICAO terminology, "Hong Kong Shuttle" and advising crew that speeds, altitude constraints on the Jepp charts are advisable only ! I tell my blokes, "endeavour to meet these requirements ( sometimes difficult, atc flow mgt etc ) or request a waiver. I usually get the response, XMGH says," we don't need to adhere to these " ! My reply is a courteous, professional response and sometimes a quick debrief on the ground.

We ( HKE flight crew ) and the DFO know that the GMF has limited capacity based on his aptitude and low experience on flying high perf. Jet transport aircraft in addition to his astonshing poor management skills but hang in there troops he IS short lived in his role here at HKE and in H.K..... it will happen ..... soon !!

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