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Getting away from CX

Old 5th Mar 2011, 17:45
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Angry Getting away from CX

Now that the flood gates have opened, I wanted to get away from these people too. The check and training department just are never going to change. What a bunch of jerkoffs these people are. Now we are going to get an aircraft where a lot of the functions don't work? You're kidding right? We talk about threats and the biggest threat is our own managment/fleet office.

So Korean is now offering 20,000$ USD a month. Is it better, well the money sure is! The AOA has told the memebership that we got a raise, that is a joke.

Guys are leaving in droves now and I am starting to realise you are better leaving than staying. This place stinks.
 
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Yeah Yeah

Saturn, here we go again. I've heard this for the many years I've been in the company and you know what - few ever seem to go. This is so very unfortunate because an inability to crew the aircraft parked on the ramp is the only driver that will ever lead to a meaningful change in remuneration and, possibly, attitude.

So I'll do my bit to help:

RESIGN RESIGN RESIGN RESIGN. Get the f...ck out of here and find Nirvana
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Old 5th Mar 2011, 19:32
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Just resign mate and don't look back.
Don't be bothered anymore about the wankers up on whatever floor it is (forgot).
There is just to much wanking and to little fun.
Most of us became pilots because we wanted to fly aeroplanes and have fun doing so. I had very little fun "flying" aeroplanes in CX (of course most of the time was as a sandwich officer - which I suppose is not really flying anyways)
Whatever lifestyle you want and what's important too you - decide from that. Don't let money rule your world - there is more to life than that - money.

There are a lot of good blokes on the F/D in CX as well - lets not forget that - But a fun, enjoyable place to work - forget it!
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Old 5th Mar 2011, 22:32
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We keep hearing Guys are leaving in droves....How many are really leaving...unless is 10% to 20% of pilot force, I really don't think the company would care....its sad cause you guys are great pilot group....all the best.
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Old 5th Mar 2011, 23:48
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I have personally heard of 3 who have left in the last 2-3 months. I am sure there have probably been more but "droves" it isn't!
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Old 6th Mar 2011, 05:32
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Cuz ...

CX are happy with their "Henchman" every fleet has two complete lunatics that should be locked up for bipolar aggression asshole disorder ..

In a conversation I had with "NR" a long time ago .. he said they can't do anything until the pilots are willing to put it in writing ..

If you encounter one of these "tossers" put every little detail down and submit it to the training department.

Or .. embrace some type of social media campaign
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Old 6th Mar 2011, 06:13
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Originally Posted by Yeager
Just resign mate and don't look back
Great advice maybe you should take it yourself21 of your last 25 posts have been on the Fragrant Harbour forum and when did you leave again? Hilarious Keep it up
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Old 6th Mar 2011, 07:23
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The Mess aka The Joker

Me, I'm in F.H. having a wander around from time to time to see whats cooking in the kitchen of Cathay Pathetic Airways.. And you are right - it is hilarious to spectate.. I'm lovin' it..
In no other PPrune forum is there so much talk and so little action than F.H.

A guy needs a little encouragement and all you do, The Mess, is waste his time. No wonder you hardly have any friends buddy. No wonder.
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Old 6th Mar 2011, 12:19
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G Days

an inability to crew the aircraft parked on the ramp is the only driver that will ever lead to a meaningful change in remuneration and, possibly, attitude.
So, STOP helping them out. Don't work G days. Don't volunteer for training. It ain't rocket science people!
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Old 6th Mar 2011, 20:01
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. . . leave and find utopia?
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Old 6th Mar 2011, 23:05
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Korean is offering $20000 a month ?? Since when?
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Old 6th Mar 2011, 23:56
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KE's five major contract agencies (Rishworth, Parc, Cambridge, GAP & Euro Pacific Aviation) have all removed the T&Cs and payscales from their websites. What they're offering now is anyone's guess.But like Emirates; KE will be taking delivery of quite a few new aircraft over the next few years, so unless they really are offering $20,000 USD p/month it will be interesting to see where all the new pilots come from.

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Old 7th Mar 2011, 14:45
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KA is the code for Dragonair. KE is the code for Korean Airlines. Using KA incorrectly will cause some confusion on this forum!
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Old 7th Mar 2011, 16:24
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Using KA incorrectly will cause some confusion on this forum!
No doubt.
However, it might not make a difference, as 'many' (it appears anyway) desire to run away from CX.
The bed of roses ain't what is used to be, apparently.
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Old 8th Mar 2011, 00:05
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You're right, I just edited the post. Thank you.
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Old 8th Mar 2011, 14:35
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BA about to hire 20-30 DEPs onto the 744 if you're after a UK base you'd be nuts not to go for it.
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Old 8th Mar 2011, 18:01
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20-30 DEPs
I've heard of DEC, DEFO, DESO but what is DEP?
DEP = Direct Entry Peanuts, Direct Entry Purser, Direct Entry Pole Dancer, Direct Entry Podiatrist, Direct Entry Pensioners or Direct Entry Prostitute
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Old 8th Mar 2011, 19:40
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A good question posed by Sand Man. In my humble opinion, as this is an aviation forum, it's possible that the P in DEP is for pilot.

Prostitute was a good guess though - frequently synonymous to pilot.
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Old 8th Mar 2011, 21:58
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As opposed to CEPs... Circuitous Entry Pilots
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Old 10th Mar 2011, 00:36
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Originally Posted by Yeager
Me, I’m in F.H. having a wander around from time to time to see whats cooking in the kitchen of Cathay Pathetic Airways.........
In no other PPRuNe forum is there so much talk and so little action than F.H.
Yeah right what a load of crap. It’s no secret that your hand was forced to leave due to your marginal personality disorder causing you to blame everybody else for your poor performance and your lack of a life away from work. You are now a bitter and angry loner who burned his bridges and comes on here to vent and look for confirmation he’s done the right thing. I actually feel a bit sorry for you.

Saturn let our friend Yeager, aka doughnut without a hole, be a warning to you. For all of CX’s faults there are plenty of positives. On the money issue, yeah sure it isn’t everything but it’s hard to raise a family without it. Do you really want to spend your career chasing contracts around the place explaining to your kids why you can’t be at their sports carnivals etc? If you are looking for the perfect airline good luck, it doesn’t exist.

Guys are not leaving in droves at all and they never will, the reason being that compared to most of the options CX is a pretty good gig, just don’t take some of the stuff to heart. I still enjoy going flying the vast majority of the time, but every job has it’s office w#nkers, why should flying be any different? They can often make a day at work very entertaining.

Good luck with your decision.
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