Salary Update!
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Hong Kong
Posts: 11
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Salary Update!
Just off the wire;
Ladies and Gentlemen
SALARY NEGOTIATIONS UPDATE
As you are aware, we have been in salary negotiations all of this week. AOA Australia, AOA Canada and the HKAOA were all separately represented during the negotiations, and an independent Bargaining Representative from Australia was also present.
The talks have been constructive and this morning the Company presented an offer in response to the proposals presented by your Associations.
After several hours of detailed study and further negotiations, your Negotiating team was able to accept the Company's offer, which will now be presented to the three General Committees with a recommendation for acceptance. It will take some time, but hopefully not too long, for the respective GC's to decide on the recommendation from the Negotiating Team, after which the membership will be asked to vote on the offer.
More, detailed information will be circulated to you as soon as possible.
Thank you all for your patience over the past few months since we first submitted our proposals on salary increases.
John Findlay
Assistant General Secretary Professional
for and of behalf of the Negotiating Team for
AOA Australia, AOA Canada and the HKAOA
17 December 2010.
Ladies and Gentlemen
SALARY NEGOTIATIONS UPDATE
As you are aware, we have been in salary negotiations all of this week. AOA Australia, AOA Canada and the HKAOA were all separately represented during the negotiations, and an independent Bargaining Representative from Australia was also present.
The talks have been constructive and this morning the Company presented an offer in response to the proposals presented by your Associations.
After several hours of detailed study and further negotiations, your Negotiating team was able to accept the Company's offer, which will now be presented to the three General Committees with a recommendation for acceptance. It will take some time, but hopefully not too long, for the respective GC's to decide on the recommendation from the Negotiating Team, after which the membership will be asked to vote on the offer.
More, detailed information will be circulated to you as soon as possible.
Thank you all for your patience over the past few months since we first submitted our proposals on salary increases.
John Findlay
Assistant General Secretary Professional
for and of behalf of the Negotiating Team for
AOA Australia, AOA Canada and the HKAOA
17 December 2010.
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: No where
Posts: 898
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Excuse my language....but why doesn't everybody just STFU for a few days and let the AOA communicate the offer, with either an acceptance or rejection recommendation. It would seem to me that for the AOA to suggest that an offer is worthy of acceptance means that there is probably a reasonable offer on the table. Once we see the details, then we can offer comment. To be either critical or supportive at this stage is pointless. The AOA committee is working on our behalf without any payment or reward....show them some respect. 
(if it is a good offer, I would deeply desire that it only went to AOA members, and not the freeloaders that are usually the first to complain about their lot...
)
(if it is a good offer, I would deeply desire that it only went to AOA members, and not the freeloaders that are usually the first to complain about their lot...
)
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Hong Kong
Posts: 105
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Thrust, why oh why is that email of any relevance to anyone other than those it was sent to. I have never seen a professional group make public it's negotiations while still in the negotiating stage.
Seriously what are you doing? Is it an ego thing........... I'm the first to see it.?
It is an internal email to the union membership otherwise John would have just sent it as an open letter in all the HKG newspapers.
Seriously what are you doing? Is it an ego thing........... I'm the first to see it.?
It is an internal email to the union membership otherwise John would have just sent it as an open letter in all the HKG newspapers.
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Retired-ville
Posts: 402
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Thrust my dear chap,
What the other chappies are trying to say, (apart from the fact a village is clearly missing its beloved idiot) is that - because even the non-members will get an update from the company, the aspects of communication to the members from the Association should really be kept out of the public, non-members and journalists domain.
So with the greatest respect, please think before you post, and ffs man - get a grip!
What the other chappies are trying to say, (apart from the fact a village is clearly missing its beloved idiot) is that - because even the non-members will get an update from the company, the aspects of communication to the members from the Association should really be kept out of the public, non-members and journalists domain.
So with the greatest respect, please think before you post, and ffs man - get a grip!
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Hong Kong
Posts: 11
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
There's an offer on the table. Big deal. The AOA, which I have supported for over 20 years, have already turned down a better deal for COS08 without as much as a member vote. I don't expect great things but who gives a sh1t that the news is out that something has come of a process that is years late. Get off your high horses.
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 26
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Perhaps the avoidance of copying and pasting company emails/memos when it comes to in-house discussions on pay and conditions (or even aircraft incidents!!!) might be worth a consideration!? Think the AOA forum is a better place to get into the nitty-gritty...
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Out there
Posts: 132
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Thrust,
Poor soul, you're such a wannabe
You were so eager to get your name on PPrune, you even posted the copied email in 2 different threads.
My advice to you, sit back, relax and grow up
Poor soul, you're such a wannabe
You were so eager to get your name on PPrune, you even posted the copied email in 2 different threads.
My advice to you, sit back, relax and grow up
Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: Sai Kungah
Posts: 199
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
The answer is obvious:
He's a management plant, here to do their dirty work for them.
Now they can rant and rave about our lack of professional concern for the proper conduct of negotiation process.
Now they can rant and rave about our lack of professional concern for the proper conduct of negotiation process.