Cathay poised to place order for widebodies
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Curious... who's going to fly them?
Is CX still over-stocked or has the age 65 changes and CEP fixed any future demands? (Not that I'm going to comment on either one of those issues. Been done to death.)
Is CX still over-stocked or has the age 65 changes and CEP fixed any future demands? (Not that I'm going to comment on either one of those issues. Been done to death.)
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Airbus vs. Boeing
Um correct me if I am wrong, hasn't Airbus had a lot of problems with their products?
CX had to ground the A330 fleet after they first got them.
An AA A300-600 tail completely snapped off the airplane sending everyone to their deaths.
An AF A330 plunged into the Atlantic killing everyone on board.
The A380 problems have not even been sorted out yet.
They (Airbus) had to give up on the A340-500/600 cause it could never perform. We gave those away.
Oh yeah I almost forgot, WE JUST HAD AN A330 NEARLY CRASH IN HONG KONG!
And CX wants more of these things??? I say go all Boeing. You'll get a good deal from them and it will help training costs immensely. B747-8is, B777-200LRs and 300 ERs and 787-8/9s. I do not even wanna ride on an Airbus!
CX had to ground the A330 fleet after they first got them.
An AA A300-600 tail completely snapped off the airplane sending everyone to their deaths.
An AF A330 plunged into the Atlantic killing everyone on board.
The A380 problems have not even been sorted out yet.
They (Airbus) had to give up on the A340-500/600 cause it could never perform. We gave those away.
Oh yeah I almost forgot, WE JUST HAD AN A330 NEARLY CRASH IN HONG KONG!
And CX wants more of these things??? I say go all Boeing. You'll get a good deal from them and it will help training costs immensely. B747-8is, B777-200LRs and 300 ERs and 787-8/9s. I do not even wanna ride on an Airbus!
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I assume you live to the west of New York.....
Nothing wrong with supporting the Seattle product, but you need to look at the overall package on offer from both vendors surely? Didn't the 777 have a small issue at LHR a year or 2 ago? If you are old enough you would also know of the issues with the B744 at introduction and if even older then the issues with the B747 and the P and W engines at the start. All new products have 'issues'!
I assume you live to the west of New York.....
Nothing wrong with supporting the Seattle product, but you need to look at the overall package on offer from both vendors surely? Didn't the 777 have a small issue at LHR a year or 2 ago? If you are old enough you would also know of the issues with the B744 at introduction and if even older then the issues with the B747 and the P and W engines at the start. All new products have 'issues'!
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Fair point
Very fair point. However, I would argue that the Boeing products have NOT been a problem for CX as the Airbus has, twice now!
I would argue the savings involved in training would be great as opposed to having different products as well as interchangable parts. The 747-8, B777 and 787 are more very common. If the company is really looking to save $$$, I would think that is the way to go. This is really more opinion than anything of course. I just happen to really think Boeing is a better product.
There are many companies that are either Boeing or Airbus only operators. No reason we can't be. I think that either company will be giving us a great deal. CX colors on any aircraft is a real sales tool.
I hope for the Boeings. More anyway.
I would argue the savings involved in training would be great as opposed to having different products as well as interchangable parts. The 747-8, B777 and 787 are more very common. If the company is really looking to save $$$, I would think that is the way to go. This is really more opinion than anything of course. I just happen to really think Boeing is a better product.
There are many companies that are either Boeing or Airbus only operators. No reason we can't be. I think that either company will be giving us a great deal. CX colors on any aircraft is a real sales tool.
I hope for the Boeings. More anyway.
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Well, the boat just sailed
...for the Airbus A380 anyway. Seems they're all going to Dubai.
ILA: Emirates orders 32 more Airbus A380s
90 A380s for Emirates.
ILA: Emirates orders 32 more Airbus A380s
90 A380s for Emirates.
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The A350 looks pretty good...
The 787 is too small. The -900 equals the A350-800 in size, and its larger variant, the -1 has a shaky future.
The A350 family, between the -800 and -900 can provide a one fleet replacement for the A330, A340 and regional 777s. The -1000 can eventually replace or supplement the -300ER.
A mixed order wouldn't make any sense and would cost a bundle in training and maintenance.
I really doubt we'll see any grey&green 787s anytime soon, despite the ludicrous theories of the fervent Boeing cheerleaders on here.
The 787 is too small. The -900 equals the A350-800 in size, and its larger variant, the -1 has a shaky future.
The A350 family, between the -800 and -900 can provide a one fleet replacement for the A330, A340 and regional 777s. The -1000 can eventually replace or supplement the -300ER.
A mixed order wouldn't make any sense and would cost a bundle in training and maintenance.
I really doubt we'll see any grey&green 787s anytime soon, despite the ludicrous theories of the fervent Boeing cheerleaders on here.
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Boeing has 866 orders for the 787 and Airbus has 530 orders for the A350 WXB. When deliveries do start, we'll be many years down the list.
While it's always great news when we order new aircraft, I was hoping for more 777's or 748's which could be delivered MUCH sooner allowing for upwards movement in the pilot ranks over the next 3-5 years.
Oh well, whats another couple years as an S/O...
While it's always great news when we order new aircraft, I was hoping for more 777's or 748's which could be delivered MUCH sooner allowing for upwards movement in the pilot ranks over the next 3-5 years.
Oh well, whats another couple years as an S/O...
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So much for that theory (787 - too small)
You can't expect to get the best deal if you don't play on the competition.
787 order would only be part of a mixed order, and that is unlikely.
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http://www.eglobaltravelnews.com.au/...the-a-380.html
It's official! 787 it is, A350's to follow. Time to command still 26 years though.
It's official! 787 it is, A350's to follow. Time to command still 26 years though.
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Its not official, some reporter with no idea as usual.
I'm betting 350's with Scarebus taking 330's back as part of the deal.
Different variations will suit KA and CX long and short haul, also common training.
I'm also betting minimum 747's for pax routes with max 777's less fleet swapping!
Now for the kicker I think management should go all Boeing for CX and all Bus for KA and make KA short to med haul and CX med to ultra long haul.
Good for the DPA and the AoA couldn't give a rats
I'm betting 350's with Scarebus taking 330's back as part of the deal.
Different variations will suit KA and CX long and short haul, also common training.
I'm also betting minimum 747's for pax routes with max 777's less fleet swapping!
Now for the kicker I think management should go all Boeing for CX and all Bus for KA and make KA short to med haul and CX med to ultra long haul.
Good for the DPA and the AoA couldn't give a rats
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I am still betting on A350s. I imagine that they are a lot cheaper to buy than the B787. And why not the -1000 over the other two? It has only a slightly reduced range (still over 8000nm, pretty much JFK) and it carries the most people (350 in three class, so 400 plus once CX packs them in). The -800 is heavier (fees), shorter, and has fewer seats than the A330-300. Sure it can go a long way, but isn't that why we have the B777-300ER? But what do I know? 
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Hi!
Toptup:
Probably the new DEFOs they are now recruiting:
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Curious... who's going to fly them?
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