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Old 26th Apr 2009, 03:15
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Well said! Too much "stockholm syndrome" going on around here.
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Old 26th Apr 2009, 04:14
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No to COS 08. Maybe a yes to SLS purely because of their threats. But considering how they have destroyed my career path in the last few years I might just be angry enough to say stuff that and No to SLS too.
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Old 26th Apr 2009, 04:33
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Wow you are a shareholder and just who do you think is the MAJOR shareholder?

The Management as they see it are working for the benefit of the shareholders by reducing costs!

As for the rant on "train sets" grow up are you just a little bit scared of what might happen to you? Your comment on management can just as easily apply to you as an individual.
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Old 26th Apr 2009, 05:25
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you're one pathetic individual iceman. something tells me you were one of the first to sign up for SLS and CoS08 while the ink hadn't dried yet
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Old 26th Apr 2009, 09:02
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Maybe a yes to SLS purely because of their threats
That sounds so valiant...

Wow, I actually just threw-up a little bit in my mouth.
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Old 26th Apr 2009, 14:12
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Thanks Squawk.

So do you honestly think anybody will take SLS because they want to help out?? No chance. Every single pilot who takes it will take it because they feel threatened if they don't.

Now swallow it.
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Old 26th Apr 2009, 15:09
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So do you honestly think anybody will take SLS because they want to help out?? No chance. Every single pilot who takes it will take it because they feel threatened if they don't.
My objection to your post is not that I disagree that some will take SLS due to fear. I agree with you in that opinion.

My nausea was caused by your spinelessness. You agreeing that you are taking the SLS due to fear. At what point will you stand up and fight for your conditions? What is your limit? Seriously, at what point will you stand up against a deterioration in your conditions?

Now swallow it.
Well, I hate to be the one to tell you this, but by the sounds of your posts, you have made it very clear that the one that is gonna "swallow it" is you.

You might as well get used to the taste because there will be plenty more coming your way, and make sure you bring mints when you fly with me.
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Old 26th Apr 2009, 15:36
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F/O NAM MID 30's Yes to SLS Hell NO to COS08
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Old 26th Apr 2009, 16:04
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F/O NAM MID 30's Yes to SLS Hell NO to COS08
Looks like the distraction worked...
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Old 26th Apr 2009, 17:21
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No distraction I'll help the company but not give up what was promised to me.
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Old 27th Apr 2009, 00:52
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No distraction I'll help the company but not give up what was promised to me.
You are giving up your salary, I'm pretty sure that was promised to you. And in the process of spreading them for the SLS grapefruit, you are opening the door for the big tamale that will surely follow.

They are not asking for help, they are just taking advantage of you. There is a very big difference. If they don't take advantage of your conditions, then it means no bonus for them in the future. You would do the same if your bonus / salary depended on it.

Talk to guys that where here arround SARS - that was the company asking for help. 10-15% load factors were real. Aircraft parked at the airport was real.

Today we are leaving people behind at the gates, we don't have enough crew for rostered flights, and the load factor is arround 90-100%.

Oh yeah, I forgot, the "yields" are low. So low, that the whole industry in Asia is suffering....except Air China, who is profitable the first quarter of 2009...and Xiamen airlines, as well as Shengzen Airlines, but don't look at that, they are in a complete different market....that is litteraly withing a 25 mile radius of us...

Quick, look at the news, "Swine Flu" is the new big scare. Forget the economy, that is so 2 mintues ago. 10bucks says we hear of Swine Flu affecting our yields on Friday. Place your bets boys.
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