Subic2Hebe Debacle
brit piracy in the south china sea
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Self-aggrandizement
Daisy aka Pryk aka Pinkyblues looks like you're hiding behind charity for what was another of your failed attempts at self-aggrandizement. Your unfortunate previous posts show the same lack of judgement that led to this thread in the first place.
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I can assure you C, that the aka's are well wrong pal. Refer to the prologue above if you dare and read it carefully. I for one don't need to hide behind pseudonyms to self gratify...I suggest you come out of your own closet and have the balls to be counted. And BTW, the thread, as you refer it was started by the guy who posted the Nowell piece and got the hornets off the nest in the first place. What fatwa?
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If you have the names of the Subic based individuals let Nowell publish this story as a balance against his original article.
At the very least the names should be posted in the HK yacht clubs, SCMP, FH and Yachting World as a story of profiteering.
If the facts are as stated the individuals should be shamed.
If you have the names of the Subic based individuals let Nowell publish this story as a balance against his original article.
At the very least the names should be posted in the HK yacht clubs, SCMP, FH and Yachting World as a story of profiteering.
If the facts are as stated the individuals should be shamed.
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maybe they are trying to raise money to help john young out having had his boat taken from him by the declaring of a mayday amidst a puddle of piss down an inside leg.
profiteering? why not just let em keep the damn thing and claim on your insurance...assuming you had organised even that much
profiteering? why not just let em keep the damn thing and claim on your insurance...assuming you had organised even that much
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and then some..
All righty. Maybe Cluin can take note and dribble some factoid to GN.
The Subic mob manufacures RIB's and composite items for motorcycles and kayaks.They are ACS,(advanced composite systems), based in Subic Bay. MD is Duncan Trower and the offsider, a delivery skipper, Mark Haswell. "Sunny" was bought from the Philippino salvors for 500usd and now stands at 15,000USD for her release. Tell GN to call the S2H team for detail.
The Subic mob manufacures RIB's and composite items for motorcycles and kayaks.They are ACS,(advanced composite systems), based in Subic Bay. MD is Duncan Trower and the offsider, a delivery skipper, Mark Haswell. "Sunny" was bought from the Philippino salvors for 500usd and now stands at 15,000USD for her release. Tell GN to call the S2H team for detail.
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maybe they are just trying to do the boating world a favour, price sunny out of the market and stop Sunny becoming part of another maritime rescue; hey, we are invincible, we can do what we like...after all, we can be rescued again and again and again...what fun!
not even close to a months salary, might jsut offer them 14000us and skupper the thing for the good of mankind
not even close to a months salary, might jsut offer them 14000us and skupper the thing for the good of mankind
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the git gets everywhere.
What is it with you? You're everywhere, needling for a sparring match. Here, DEC, issues with SO's and malaligning our antipodean compadres. You seem to have issue with folk who just want to put something back, either into the system of work or in other spheres. God help us that f..k wits like you and the other 3 jokers in this thread are in the minority.
John Young has abandoned his refit efforts and is returning to the USA. I am funding that for him and then some. The MAYDAY was broadcast not after a" little pee down the trouser leg" as you put it, but in a Force 12 maelstrom, with the port side wheel house stoved in, no power, sail or effective safety items. The skipper(sic) and a crew man were incapacitated. The ship was taking on water and the bilge pump was u/s. Once again, if you want to spar with a chap because you have historic issues that need venting, go elsewhere and not air it here. Your insouciance is an insult to the hard work and christian efforts of the team,(made up mostly of your colleagues) and the kids that have benefited from this endeavour. You should be ashamed of yourself. But either way, why do I think yet another jibe at Daisy from you will continue this now needless thread?
John Young has abandoned his refit efforts and is returning to the USA. I am funding that for him and then some. The MAYDAY was broadcast not after a" little pee down the trouser leg" as you put it, but in a Force 12 maelstrom, with the port side wheel house stoved in, no power, sail or effective safety items. The skipper(sic) and a crew man were incapacitated. The ship was taking on water and the bilge pump was u/s. Once again, if you want to spar with a chap because you have historic issues that need venting, go elsewhere and not air it here. Your insouciance is an insult to the hard work and christian efforts of the team,(made up mostly of your colleagues) and the kids that have benefited from this endeavour. You should be ashamed of yourself. But either way, why do I think yet another jibe at Daisy from you will continue this now needless thread?
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Profiteering
Hey Kluge….agree wholeheardedly with your comment that the profiteering guys in Subic, whom Daisy 120 has published, should be publicly named…..! But could Nowell write an article that was the truth, that had the correct facts? That would be a stark contrast to the fallacious piece of nonsensical prose that led to this thread in the first place?
In case you haven’t been brought up to speed about Nowell, the ‘opportunistic wally’, he published his maligning piece of fallacy on the same day that Stu returned to HK off the ‘Mill Feet’…. without ever doing any credible research, without ever talking to Stu to find out the facts, or John for that matter…nor made any attempt to do so,…nor without ever contacting the Ops team supporting the Challenge, that could have given him the facts.
Which is why Mr Knowall’s article is full of wrong dates, wrong times, wrong info and wrong assumptions especially re John Young, the Skipper of Sailabout, which the ignorant and less intelligent on this site have bought into ‘Lock, Stock and Barrel’….US Marine and Canuckster have disturbingly done so…! (they are supposedly meant to be intelligent pilots! …..apparently and unfortunately an oxymoron with regards to them!)
FACT: It was John Young’s decision as Skipper to take Sailabout out to look for Sunny….. Stu was just the charterer, ….if you believed Mr Knowall’s article you’d swear that Stu must have had a gun to the Skipper’s head…..It was John Young’s responsibility to say no to the charter if he thought there was danger! Sailabout was his home. He knew Subic. He had lived around the Philippines for 6 years. He accepted the charter.
FICTION….If you believed US Marine in his childish rantings on his last posting you would believe that it was a calm summer’s day/night out there when Stu called the MAYDAY….. really!……..We on the other end of the sat phone, and who talked to all the crew afterwards, knew differently…..as Stu has stated in his personal account, on the subic2hebechallenge.com web-site
FACT …. Stu and 3 others were there. Mr Knowall was not! Canuckster was not! US Marine was not (although I am sure if he had been he would have been pissing himself in the corner which is what he accuses Stu of doing……obviously we are privvy to US Marine’s own personal history about himself here!) ….. And btw, … John Young was extremely grateful to be alive as he told the Ops crew when he got back to HK, …as were the other 3!
FACT…..Mr Knowall, demonstrated severe lack of judgement in writing that article, like Canuckster/US Marine, for believing it.
And why did GN write his bit of fallacy? Some say it was born from pure ignorance, some say it was born from his ‘wannabee’ mentality,……Most say it was born from his arrogance and ego, his need to be the first one to get the story out on his web-site…..to hell with the facts, truth, fair reporting and talking to Stu, or the others who were there and lived it all!, …..As we now know MR Knowall would make it up and dramatise it as he wrote it! In fact, in his mind he must have thought that the more sensational and damning the article (esp using the bold print to state his own ignorant and unfounded opinions!), the more the reader’s would hit his web-site, the more profit he would make!
Kluge, an interesting idea you propose….The irony is fantastic…..A Profiteer like Nowell, writes a story about the Sunny Profiteers in Subic. What a Guy ……
And as for US Marine/Canuckster…...Move on! Do what you can to make a positive mark on the world rather than all your negative and cynical ****e…..Do what you can to bring a smile to others’ faces…….You are only here on borrowed time…….
In case you haven’t been brought up to speed about Nowell, the ‘opportunistic wally’, he published his maligning piece of fallacy on the same day that Stu returned to HK off the ‘Mill Feet’…. without ever doing any credible research, without ever talking to Stu to find out the facts, or John for that matter…nor made any attempt to do so,…nor without ever contacting the Ops team supporting the Challenge, that could have given him the facts.
Which is why Mr Knowall’s article is full of wrong dates, wrong times, wrong info and wrong assumptions especially re John Young, the Skipper of Sailabout, which the ignorant and less intelligent on this site have bought into ‘Lock, Stock and Barrel’….US Marine and Canuckster have disturbingly done so…! (they are supposedly meant to be intelligent pilots! …..apparently and unfortunately an oxymoron with regards to them!)
FACT: It was John Young’s decision as Skipper to take Sailabout out to look for Sunny….. Stu was just the charterer, ….if you believed Mr Knowall’s article you’d swear that Stu must have had a gun to the Skipper’s head…..It was John Young’s responsibility to say no to the charter if he thought there was danger! Sailabout was his home. He knew Subic. He had lived around the Philippines for 6 years. He accepted the charter.
FICTION….If you believed US Marine in his childish rantings on his last posting you would believe that it was a calm summer’s day/night out there when Stu called the MAYDAY….. really!……..We on the other end of the sat phone, and who talked to all the crew afterwards, knew differently…..as Stu has stated in his personal account, on the subic2hebechallenge.com web-site
FACT …. Stu and 3 others were there. Mr Knowall was not! Canuckster was not! US Marine was not (although I am sure if he had been he would have been pissing himself in the corner which is what he accuses Stu of doing……obviously we are privvy to US Marine’s own personal history about himself here!) ….. And btw, … John Young was extremely grateful to be alive as he told the Ops crew when he got back to HK, …as were the other 3!
FACT…..Mr Knowall, demonstrated severe lack of judgement in writing that article, like Canuckster/US Marine, for believing it.
And why did GN write his bit of fallacy? Some say it was born from pure ignorance, some say it was born from his ‘wannabee’ mentality,……Most say it was born from his arrogance and ego, his need to be the first one to get the story out on his web-site…..to hell with the facts, truth, fair reporting and talking to Stu, or the others who were there and lived it all!, …..As we now know MR Knowall would make it up and dramatise it as he wrote it! In fact, in his mind he must have thought that the more sensational and damning the article (esp using the bold print to state his own ignorant and unfounded opinions!), the more the reader’s would hit his web-site, the more profit he would make!
Kluge, an interesting idea you propose….The irony is fantastic…..A Profiteer like Nowell, writes a story about the Sunny Profiteers in Subic. What a Guy ……
And as for US Marine/Canuckster…...Move on! Do what you can to make a positive mark on the world rather than all your negative and cynical ****e…..Do what you can to bring a smile to others’ faces…….You are only here on borrowed time…….
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Just ignore them.
Pucka - glad you liked the irony. Whats goes around comes around.
Relevant words. An excerpt from Ruyard Kipling's "If".
"If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools, Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken, and stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools."
I don't have GNs contact details but whoever does please fwd the details that daisy120 mentioned such that he is presented with the opportunity to do his own research into the facts and redeem himself in a follow up article.
I have forwarded the details to other press contacts for similar factual research.
Hopefully a good and balanced story will ensue.
Pucka - glad you liked the irony. Whats goes around comes around.
Relevant words. An excerpt from Ruyard Kipling's "If".
"If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools, Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken, and stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools."
I don't have GNs contact details but whoever does please fwd the details that daisy120 mentioned such that he is presented with the opportunity to do his own research into the facts and redeem himself in a follow up article.
I have forwarded the details to other press contacts for similar factual research.
Hopefully a good and balanced story will ensue.
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needless thread? i think you hit the nail on the head Daisy. nothing new coming out in the wash so maybe a good time to draw the thread to a close. let USM and Canuck prattle amongst themselves. no doubt still a lot to devote your time and attention to. as someone who knows many of you involved in this whole project, it will be interesting to see if the press can come up with subic2hebe part 2...but probably wont happen.....reality is often not sensational.
out of interest, ball-park....how much to you reckon the whole effort will have made for charity (sorry...that leads to this thread continuing a little bit longer).
USM and Canuck....not going to hurl insults your way but come on guys, move on. this really is over apart from for the guys who are still picking up the pieces.
out of interest, ball-park....how much to you reckon the whole effort will have made for charity (sorry...that leads to this thread continuing a little bit longer).
USM and Canuck....not going to hurl insults your way but come on guys, move on. this really is over apart from for the guys who are still picking up the pieces.
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treboryelk...a diamond comment from one with sense!
From the Asia Miles aspect alone and to date, 36 kids with their carers and all the ancilliary equipment associated with their various disabilities, will have a vacation in Taiwan. I believe Jules at the SSC has a more accurate figure to that and the totals. Its difficult to work out the final figures from donations since much of it has come in with no ref to the S2H Challenge. I think it stands for about 3/4 mill. Its still coming in so lets hope it hits the jackpot. There should be sufficient in that to provide for cardiac equipment,(echo cardio and mapping systems for pediatric cases) at the Grantham, plus the essentials for the resident kids at the SSC.
Well done and thanks for all of you who either subscribed, popped the odd allowance or 4 in the box or journied up the route of pay pal. You're generosity and support has been marvellous. Thankyou.
From the Asia Miles aspect alone and to date, 36 kids with their carers and all the ancilliary equipment associated with their various disabilities, will have a vacation in Taiwan. I believe Jules at the SSC has a more accurate figure to that and the totals. Its difficult to work out the final figures from donations since much of it has come in with no ref to the S2H Challenge. I think it stands for about 3/4 mill. Its still coming in so lets hope it hits the jackpot. There should be sufficient in that to provide for cardiac equipment,(echo cardio and mapping systems for pediatric cases) at the Grantham, plus the essentials for the resident kids at the SSC.
Well done and thanks for all of you who either subscribed, popped the odd allowance or 4 in the box or journied up the route of pay pal. You're generosity and support has been marvellous. Thankyou.
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Sbic2Hebe debacle
I have just read this entire thread and cannot understand what was in the head of Mr Pryke when he sailed from Subic in the late afternoon of Wed May 14.
At 4PM Pagasa issued a WX advisory and assigned the name Cosme (95) to a tropical depression. They advised that winds at the centre were 30 knots gusting to 38 knots and that the sea condition was max wanes of 11ft They provided a tracking chart that clearly shows the storm's probable track to coincide with the intended course of "Sailabout". As it turned out, this initial tracking forecast was spot on.
At 7PM May 14, Typhoon 2000 issued report 001 on thjis storm and expanded on the data in the Pagasa bulletin. For no charge (other than the cost of an SMS), Typhoon 2000 sends these reports to your cell phone. You just have to register and and request the sefrvice. In addition Typhoon 2000 will take calls (as will Pagasa) and issue WX info over the phone (even if it is a sat phone).
"Sailabout" left port and sailed into a tropical storm that was accurately located and being accurately tracked by the local weather information services. Neither Mr Pryke or the Owner of the yacht appear to have made any attempt whatsoever to get the available WX. OR if they did, either did not understand the data or had egos big enough to ignore it.
Both Mr Pryke and the owner of the yacht demonstrated a lack of awareness and Mr Pryke's subsequent statements trying to offload the result of this lack as an act of God or the result of bad information are ludicrous.
At 4PM Pagasa issued a WX advisory and assigned the name Cosme (95) to a tropical depression. They advised that winds at the centre were 30 knots gusting to 38 knots and that the sea condition was max wanes of 11ft They provided a tracking chart that clearly shows the storm's probable track to coincide with the intended course of "Sailabout". As it turned out, this initial tracking forecast was spot on.
At 7PM May 14, Typhoon 2000 issued report 001 on thjis storm and expanded on the data in the Pagasa bulletin. For no charge (other than the cost of an SMS), Typhoon 2000 sends these reports to your cell phone. You just have to register and and request the sefrvice. In addition Typhoon 2000 will take calls (as will Pagasa) and issue WX info over the phone (even if it is a sat phone).
"Sailabout" left port and sailed into a tropical storm that was accurately located and being accurately tracked by the local weather information services. Neither Mr Pryke or the Owner of the yacht appear to have made any attempt whatsoever to get the available WX. OR if they did, either did not understand the data or had egos big enough to ignore it.
Both Mr Pryke and the owner of the yacht demonstrated a lack of awareness and Mr Pryke's subsequent statements trying to offload the result of this lack as an act of God or the result of bad information are ludicrous.
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daisy.....got say that is a **** load of cash for a good cause. on that front well done.
personally, from my warm armchair, and knowing the south china sea reasonably well.....i reckon you were nuts going back out again.....
but hate to say it, there are a lot of us who would probably have tried to do exactly the same thing!!
good luck with the $1M.
personally, from my warm armchair, and knowing the south china sea reasonably well.....i reckon you were nuts going back out again.....
but hate to say it, there are a lot of us who would probably have tried to do exactly the same thing!!
good luck with the $1M.
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just thought id put it out there to Sherlock Holmes who suggested i was Daisy120 and thus Prykey himself; id stop colouring in your homework and get your head out your arse cause that is some smelly bull**** your throwing around- who, apart from US marine who seems to spend his time on this thread waiting with another amazingly eloquent rant, would waste their time logging in as two different people?
On the plus side, hitting the 3/4 money mark is an applaudable effort for anyone who is willing to stick their neck on the line, so despite all who jeer from the sidelines, i commend all those who are keeping their heads high and getting on with the grind...leave the likes of USM on threads such as these as they can only survive behind a computer screen and keyboard...most likely before going out to tell the world how essential they are to our society...of course you are fella...pull the other one.
On the plus side, hitting the 3/4 money mark is an applaudable effort for anyone who is willing to stick their neck on the line, so despite all who jeer from the sidelines, i commend all those who are keeping their heads high and getting on with the grind...leave the likes of USM on threads such as these as they can only survive behind a computer screen and keyboard...most likely before going out to tell the world how essential they are to our society...of course you are fella...pull the other one.