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Old 24th Feb 2008, 08:46
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Lucky Sod

So summing up all of the above.
Cathay is sh1t3 and IW is well out of it.

Good luck Ian, you lucky bugger!
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Old 24th Feb 2008, 08:58
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VolareCantare,

By some of your comments I have a suspicion that you must be a CX manager, or not with CX at all! If you are with CX, then where have you been the past 14 years? One CX manager is sacked and you become quite vocal about the whole issue! Well why were you not so vocal about past and present injustices caused by CX managers? Where was your dignity, camarederie and self respect when a 20 + year serving ISM was sacked for merely taking a bottle of water from the airplane. Dignity, camarederie and self respect are not traits of a CX manager. If it were, they would not VOLUNTEER for that position. So please spare me the lovey dovey Dr Phil comments.
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Old 24th Feb 2008, 09:15
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Having seen those pics I'm not surprised he got the boot!

How could you think otherwise?
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Old 24th Feb 2008, 10:02
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Yes, he forgot something very important.

Aviation has fast become an occupation where you do and go where you are told. The pilots job really is to stop the thing crashing between dep and dest. I am sorry to say an "Airline pilot" is not much more than a robot these days. Computers can do our jobs.

Attempting a beat up is foolish in the extreme. It is just not worth it as recent events have proved. Who was he trying to impress? Certainly didn't impress me. If he needs to get his "rocks off" by trying to show how "good" he is, then may I suggest he do it in the simulator as that is the place to monkey around.

He also forgot another thing. The bigger you are, the harder you fall. Justice had to be shown to be done and was done it seems.
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Old 24th Feb 2008, 10:26
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Love it!!!

Best thing I have seen in a while, wish I was on board! Pretty gutsy move!
But he is cashing checks his ass can't pay for!
"Thats not your money its the shareholders money". They should put him on a freighter for a while flying rubber dog s#@! outer Hong Kong!
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Old 24th Feb 2008, 10:37
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D69, your suspicion radar is rather faulty, simple answer is that I have only recently become interested or familiar with the whole internet world due to pressure from my far away located daughter, the birth of my grandson and the magic of skype....OK?

PPRUNE I have heard of for many years and decided to check it out when I heard about the recent event! Why maybe Ive been fantasizing about a spot of low flying myself lately and identified.. I don't know.... ask your Doctor Phil?I don't know your who he is but , but considering your obvious anger issues maybe you should ask for your money back and consider changing to another??
"Lovey Dovey" well I'm flattered its been a while....... but since when did a bit of love hurt anyone??

Bloggs, never once have I tried to defend or justify any of the history you cite. I have been appalled and gutted many times at some of the things I have seen. I was there for all of the above and more and have not got a short memory.

However you conveniently miss the whole point of my post. I am talking about the issues among the pilot body itself. How the very behavior we claim to abhor in our managers we feel we can level at our colleagues as it suits.

Please re read it and then get back to me if you wish!

Bloggs, how did you do that quote thing inserting my text?

You said ...Volarecantare, I seem to disagree on some of your statements.

Does this mean there is some of what I said that you do agree with then?

Ive no intentions is setting up another Union, however I would like to look at someone setting up some kind of a support group for pilots who can come for support without the risk of being threatened or laughed at by their own colleagues.

As regards the "evil" management point, actually what I'm saying is the very behavior you seem to hate in management I see leveled within the pilots body many many times. I have seen many a pilot have a knife stuck in his back should he not know the steps to march with the militia. Ive seen guys bullied on line and in the sim, in C+T in wanchai and in the union. Ive seen people loose their marriages and kids and sometimes their health because they could not cope with the pressures of command courses. Any form of weakness or vulnerability shown and they are scoffed at. I've seen people alienated blacklisted and abused for making decisions which were best for them families and their health....

Difficult to demand respect from Management when we show little respect for each other.

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Old 24th Feb 2008, 10:53
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Good on the bloke for seeing his career out in style, his probably been dreaming of that maneuver for the last 3 months, yeah its stupid, but he's got something to talk about in his retirement now hasn't he! How many other's go out like this. its takes balls. Every pilot thats worked beside him should be proud for it! Its a pity it can not be kept internal like the olds days would have been.
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Old 24th Feb 2008, 11:18
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Great photos of the fly-by!

I say, enlarge some of the pics and hang them up on the walls of the 3rd floor!
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Old 24th Feb 2008, 11:27
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Every pilot thats worked beside him should be proud for it!
So who was sitting in the RH seat?

I'm sure that he was pretty proud to land a 6 month suspension.

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Old 24th Feb 2008, 11:29
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Ouch is that true?
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Old 24th Feb 2008, 11:31
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exagerate reaction

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Old 24th Feb 2008, 11:31
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simple answer is that I have only recently become interested or familiar with the whole internet world
PPRUNE I have heard of for many years and decided to check it out when I heard about the recent event
You are completely and utterly full of it! Had a good laugh nonetheless

For your info!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_McGraw
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Old 24th Feb 2008, 11:35
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So who was sitting in the RH seat calling up, up, up (as heard on the CVR)?
That's one helluva CVR, flight time from Seattle to Honkers being what?
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Old 24th Feb 2008, 11:37
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Apologies I thought it was you own Doc you were referring to...

Still I wouldn't have taken a hard man like yourself to be an Oprah Winfrey fan ...go on admit it, your a bit of a softy yourself?
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Old 24th Feb 2008, 11:47
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Zagorfly.......sorry mate, I had to read that post 6 times, and I still don't know what you are talking about.

Can you please use a web based tool such as Babelfish to translate that into English?

lmh
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Old 24th Feb 2008, 12:00
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Been looking for a video on the web.

I can't find a dang thing!!

Just how much influence does Cathay have?

I even did a search for "Cathay flyby" on flightinternational.com

You know what I got back.

Did you mean: cat hay flyby
Your search for cathay flyby did not match any documents.
Not even a news story never mind a video.

Wierd.
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Old 24th Feb 2008, 12:04
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sorry to bother you mate.
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Old 24th Feb 2008, 12:17
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couldn't really confirm, but i think somebody posted it on youtube. don't know if it's still there...
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Old 24th Feb 2008, 12:32
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Should he then not be demoted to F/O like the Captain of the JFK incident?
What happened in this incident?
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Old 24th Feb 2008, 13:51
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If it is true that CEO was "standing in the cockpit" at the time of this incident, as this blog says, is there not perhaps a more systemic safety problem here?

http://blog.seattle-deliveries.com/2...-delivery.html

Safety must run from the top down, right?
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