NA Pax F/O's
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NA Pax F/O's
What is going to happen to the NA Pax F/O's when the B744's are leaving and the 777 comes in and replaces the flying? Will they have to go back to flying freighter rosters again or will they be trained on the B777? If you look on the B777 news letter it's looks like they are planning on staffing the B777 with new joiners. That would only cost them one training event vs two.
Fleet Numbers
To give you some idea about the fleet expansion here are a few figures for the coming year, based on today’s plan.
Fleet Numbers
To give you some idea about the fleet expansion here are a few figures for the coming year, based on today’s plan.
- Fifty new second officers with seven of them being cadets. These first induction cadets on the fleet start to join in February.
- Thirty-three new commands with the bulk of candidates coming off the B744.
- Five Toronto based Airbus Captains starting their conversions in March.
- Thirty-two Vancouver based B744 Captains and First Officers starting their courses in July.
- Thirty-six JFO upgrades with the bulk coming from the B744.
- Twenty direct entry First Officers who will be based in Toronto and Los Angeles.
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They get around the no recruiting by basing company to a base area by saying that Cathay Pacific recruits and hires these guys and then on day 1 they resign from Cathay and join VETA, USAB etc. CX is not a basing company
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What they will do is ask pax FOs in NA to resign their CX seniority and rejoin under the new and improved COS with the UFO scale.
This way everybody is happy and everyone benefits from the simplification of having one scale in NA instead of multiple. Don't you see the benefit?? What is wrong with you
This way everybody is happy and everyone benefits from the simplification of having one scale in NA instead of multiple. Don't you see the benefit?? What is wrong with you
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And you're (note spelling) surprised? Been here 13 years and I've learned that they move goal posts; now they keep changing the game.
Were I to do it again, I would not have joined this mob. Friends of mine left within a few months of joining to go to AC, BA and Virgin back in '94. They now have pensions and career protection. When you join as a young man/woman, pensions aren't that important to you. Crunch some numbers, put in inflation, date of death and expected retirement age etc and look at the number required to retire. It's probably more than you think. (It could be less depending on your current assets)
I know others have said it before but here's what we have to do:
1) Don't answer your phone if you are not required to work;
2) Don't join check and training. It's an appointment, you don't get any more bars to put on your pygamas at night. Teach your S/O's for free. You're a Captain, pass on anything you know. I'm not asking the current Check or Trainers to do anything, carry on as normal. But please don't anyone else join.
3) Join the AOA. If you don't agree with things, vote it out as is your right. It works as a nation as well. You may not like your leader at the time but in the end, democracy, with all it's flaws is the only way to go.
4) Look beyond yourself. Working on a G day is not right. Trust me, I need the money more than most (wives,kids, illnesses). I've given up days to be at home only to watch other guys take the money. It only hurts us in the long run, but you have to have the vision to see that far.
5) I wouldn't call in sick if I weren't. You are a professional, so please always act like one. If you are sick, don't come in, you're not doing anyone any favours.
6) Never leave HK going into discretion, its our home base. That's not the point of discretion. If you're going home, use discretion as long as you and the crew are fit and able. Remember, the cabin crew work harder on the ground during delays than they do during the flight when everyone's asleep.
Standing by to be flamed.
Cheers
Were I to do it again, I would not have joined this mob. Friends of mine left within a few months of joining to go to AC, BA and Virgin back in '94. They now have pensions and career protection. When you join as a young man/woman, pensions aren't that important to you. Crunch some numbers, put in inflation, date of death and expected retirement age etc and look at the number required to retire. It's probably more than you think. (It could be less depending on your current assets)
I know others have said it before but here's what we have to do:
1) Don't answer your phone if you are not required to work;
2) Don't join check and training. It's an appointment, you don't get any more bars to put on your pygamas at night. Teach your S/O's for free. You're a Captain, pass on anything you know. I'm not asking the current Check or Trainers to do anything, carry on as normal. But please don't anyone else join.
3) Join the AOA. If you don't agree with things, vote it out as is your right. It works as a nation as well. You may not like your leader at the time but in the end, democracy, with all it's flaws is the only way to go.
4) Look beyond yourself. Working on a G day is not right. Trust me, I need the money more than most (wives,kids, illnesses). I've given up days to be at home only to watch other guys take the money. It only hurts us in the long run, but you have to have the vision to see that far.
5) I wouldn't call in sick if I weren't. You are a professional, so please always act like one. If you are sick, don't come in, you're not doing anyone any favours.
6) Never leave HK going into discretion, its our home base. That's not the point of discretion. If you're going home, use discretion as long as you and the crew are fit and able. Remember, the cabin crew work harder on the ground during delays than they do during the flight when everyone's asleep.
Standing by to be flamed.
Cheers
