The Demise of Hong Kong Airlines
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You guys with your unreasonable and hateful view of life do nothing but tarnish the reputation of aviators in this open forum. Go home before I kill somebody.........I don't think so; but you might be soul dead soon with so much hatred , if not by a stroke or cardiac arrest to your physical self.
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Hey Jandacort!
What`s all this `killing people` ??? 
Maintain proffesionalism and be matured..grow up man!! 
The rest of it if its factual lets respect it
and not get emotional or carried away.
Looks like someone is able to hack my post earlier in the south east asia post..and also one sometime ago, wonder..
if its the training manager HKA (Capt. RJ St****t ) ?? Lets se if this post is missing again . 
Jangan geng!!
What`s all this `killing people` ??? Maintain proffesionalism and be matured..grow up man!! The rest of it if its factual lets respect it
and not get emotional or carried away. Looks like someone is able to hack my post earlier in the south east asia post..and also one sometime ago, wonder..
if its the training manager HKA (Capt. RJ St****t ) ?? Lets se if this post is missing again . Jangan geng!!
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RS's Original E-mail
Hey Mat,
Could you repost RS's original e-mail that you posted?
It has been lost, and now is an appropriate time to revist it. That e-mail was dated from when Ronal McDonal started spinning the story of the SS saviours to the mainland Chinese managers in Hong Kong Airlines.
Could you repost RS's original e-mail that you posted?
It has been lost, and now is an appropriate time to revist it. That e-mail was dated from when Ronal McDonal started spinning the story of the SS saviours to the mainland Chinese managers in Hong Kong Airlines.
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Hi Drool69
"This email was circulated today by the HKA training manager:
Hi Guys,
I noticed the norm during PCs with V1 cut, the procedure of BUG UP for flap clean up does not correspond well with CAD170 requirement of -0 to +200ft allowance in maintaining acceleration altitude while cleaning up the aircraft. I believe those following the standard practise would have failed this section in their PCs. The FD gives a target for acceleration with a slight climb. Almost everyone bust the altitude by 400 to 500 feet during the cleanup.
Recommendation for our PCs only:
In tricking the FD I would suggest using FPV and after BUG UP fly the FPV level with the horizon in order to maintain within the 200ft allowance but do not descend below the acceleration altitude. Once cleaned up, and after selection of LVL CHG, MCT etc, then follow the FD for climb."
Is this the same Training Manager 'RS' who's gone in the hide-out after Wuzy's episode at the Stars ?? 
Good luck! Happy landings hopefully..
"This email was circulated today by the HKA training manager:
Hi Guys,
I noticed the norm during PCs with V1 cut, the procedure of BUG UP for flap clean up does not correspond well with CAD170 requirement of -0 to +200ft allowance in maintaining acceleration altitude while cleaning up the aircraft. I believe those following the standard practise would have failed this section in their PCs. The FD gives a target for acceleration with a slight climb. Almost everyone bust the altitude by 400 to 500 feet during the cleanup.
Recommendation for our PCs only:
In tricking the FD I would suggest using FPV and after BUG UP fly the FPV level with the horizon in order to maintain within the 200ft allowance but do not descend below the acceleration altitude. Once cleaned up, and after selection of LVL CHG, MCT etc, then follow the FD for climb."
Is this the same Training Manager 'RS' who's gone in the hide-out after Wuzy's episode at the Stars ?? Good luck! Happy landings hopefully..
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Did you guys ever read properly b4 posting? Btw, I do not work for HKA, SIA, HKE, AHK etc and I am nowhere in HKG. I sentence about killing was a response to Leaving HKA's very loud post:
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Leaving HKAWell lookey here...
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jandakotcruiser
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I was with MAS in the 90's and I do remember the SEP procedures in hijack situations. As I understand it they applied only to Malaysian registered aircrafts. It would really be nice if the M'sian government and MAS come up with some meaningful commemoration for this tragic event
.
Seems I was right. You are one of the SingaSwine.
If your location is , as listed , "in the arse end of the world", then I suspect Eric is wearing a smile on his face and his little nub is erect.
That is your favorite choice of arse isn't it?
GO HOME before you kill somebody [End QUOTE]
These foul mouths need to take a break, cool down before they spill their bile. Name calling, painting all Singa people as snakes with a broad brush and using this forum for their petty personal vendetta are all downright boorish and uncouth.
I am not a singaporean but I do have good friends from Singapore and they do not exhibit " snaky " behaviour. However the venom that spewed all over this thread betray the real snakes who used this fora to further their agenda.
I certainly do not agree with HKA's or AHK's management tactics but with such operators, what do you expect. And the fact that for anyone to want to work there or have worked there tells us very much about such individuals
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Leaving HKAWell lookey here...
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jandakotcruiser
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I was with MAS in the 90's and I do remember the SEP procedures in hijack situations. As I understand it they applied only to Malaysian registered aircrafts. It would really be nice if the M'sian government and MAS come up with some meaningful commemoration for this tragic event
.
Seems I was right. You are one of the SingaSwine.
If your location is , as listed , "in the arse end of the world", then I suspect Eric is wearing a smile on his face and his little nub is erect.
That is your favorite choice of arse isn't it?
GO HOME before you kill somebody [End QUOTE]
These foul mouths need to take a break, cool down before they spill their bile. Name calling, painting all Singa people as snakes with a broad brush and using this forum for their petty personal vendetta are all downright boorish and uncouth.
I am not a singaporean but I do have good friends from Singapore and they do not exhibit " snaky " behaviour. However the venom that spewed all over this thread betray the real snakes who used this fora to further their agenda.
I certainly do not agree with HKA's or AHK's management tactics but with such operators, what do you expect. And the fact that for anyone to want to work there or have worked there tells us very much about such individuals
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Heard a rumour the lying 
s telling ex Oasis pilots they are getting 747 freighters, but they will have to fly the 737 'til they get here................those guys just crack me up, the 3 stooges are amateurs by comparison 
BTW, of the dozens that have left, how many have been paid in accordance with the HK labour ordinance
, anyone, anyone, Bueller 
Yes, before we bile spewing, fould mouthed aviators arrived on the scene , it was a great, professional, well paid job, just look what we have turned it into, its all our fault 
s telling ex Oasis pilots they are getting 747 freighters, but they will have to fly the 737 'til they get here................those guys just crack me up, the 3 stooges are amateurs by comparison BTW, of the dozens that have left, how many have been paid in accordance with the HK labour ordinance
, anyone, anyone, Bueller
I certainly do not agree with HKA's or AHK's management tactics but with such operators, what do you expect
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Jandakot,
Stop being nosy and try to police these fellas, mate. Things won't get any more pleasant with their postings. We all know intrinsically what these fellas are and what they are capable of.
Stop being nosy and try to police these fellas, mate. Things won't get any more pleasant with their postings. We all know intrinsically what these fellas are and what they are capable of.
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Hassan Bok
"Jandakot,
Stop being nosy and try to police these fellas, mate. Things won't get any more pleasant with their postings. "
Well said, Absolutely, can`t say any more.!!
"Jandakot,
Stop being nosy and try to police these fellas, mate. Things won't get any more pleasant with their postings. "
Well said, Absolutely, can`t say any more.!!
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"You can't fire 14 of my friends for racial reasons, tell HKE's Ops Mgr he can't hire them, and expect us to stay".
As one of the 14 on the receiving end, this is exactly how it is and I can't agree more with AAIGUY.
The equation at HKA is really quite simple after managements racial cleansing. This act was the straw that broke the Camels back for most within the airline.
Its simply a case of people having recently left, are leaving/ waiting for start dates or are there simply because they went to great expense to make the move over to Hong Kong and would like to stay within Hing Kong and are waiting for further opportunities within Hong Kong.
It's that simple!!!
As for those who bag others poor opinions of this airline and their management.....well I'd love to see your reaction if the shoe was on the other foot!
As one of the 14 on the receiving end, this is exactly how it is and I can't agree more with AAIGUY.
The equation at HKA is really quite simple after managements racial cleansing. This act was the straw that broke the Camels back for most within the airline.
Its simply a case of people having recently left, are leaving/ waiting for start dates or are there simply because they went to great expense to make the move over to Hong Kong and would like to stay within Hing Kong and are waiting for further opportunities within Hong Kong.
It's that simple!!!
As for those who bag others poor opinions of this airline and their management.....well I'd love to see your reaction if the shoe was on the other foot!
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Hi Sora
That post that went missing was a simple one asking this guys to move on and not drag ex-MAS guys from Kimchiland and sandpit into his/thier battles in HKA or AHK against others. Basically remain `professional and matured`and stop hitting own people. Some of my write up then was in Malaysian language.
Maintain dignity and credibity of individuals origin, be Singapore, Malaysia or anywhere else proffessional PILOTS, more so desperately wanting to be "management" of a future successful Airline. All the best!!
Happy Flying!
That post that went missing was a simple one asking this guys to move on and not drag ex-MAS guys from Kimchiland and sandpit into his/thier battles in HKA or AHK against others. Basically remain `professional and matured`and stop hitting own people.
Some of my write up then was in Malaysian language. Maintain dignity and credibity of individuals origin, be Singapore, Malaysia or anywhere else proffessional PILOTS, more so desperately wanting to be "management" of a future successful Airline. All the best!!
Happy Flying!
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More Direct Entry Captains
I have just heard that there are more friends of the SS on the way to HKA. They are all direct entry captains.
That should just about finish any hope of upgrade for FOs in HKA. Also, the DECs are all being told that they can expect B747 Freighter commands very soon. Those SS boys can sure spin a line of b******t.
That should just about finish any hope of upgrade for FOs in HKA. Also, the DECs are all being told that they can expect B747 Freighter commands very soon. Those SS boys can sure spin a line of b******t.
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Geeez & to think I've started planning about going over to Asia to fly heavy metal. It would take me a year to figure out who's telling the truth here about who. I'd hate to ask what has happened to Asia flying for fear of having to sit in front of this thing to figure out all the responses fro the rest of my natural life!
I hope you guys can make it work there, for back here in Oz it's falling apart also!
CW
I hope you guys can make it work there, for back here in Oz it's falling apart also!
CW
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The fact is, attacks aside.. you can't refute Leaving's fact that I and close to 70 overs have resigned from HKA. It was was for two reasons. Lack of Conditions of Service, and exceptionally poor racist managment.
You can't fire 14 of my friends for racial reasons, tell HKE's Ops Mgr he can't hire them, and expect us to stay.
Go ahead refute the facts. You can't.
HKA repeadtly told me that they couldn't pay pilots more as the had no revenue.
KA pays me 3 times as much (I can show you a pay stub. It's actually over 3 times) and makes big profits.
The only reason HKA doesn't have money is inept management.
SO .. this is the last I will post here. (unless I see further lies)
Any pilot reading this thread can feel free to disregard all the attacks, name calling, ect...
But pilots must realize who they will be working for if they join HKA.
You can't fire 14 of my friends for racial reasons, tell HKE's Ops Mgr he can't hire them, and expect us to stay.
Go ahead refute the facts. You can't.
HKA repeadtly told me that they couldn't pay pilots more as the had no revenue.
KA pays me 3 times as much (I can show you a pay stub. It's actually over 3 times) and makes big profits.
The only reason HKA doesn't have money is inept management.
SO .. this is the last I will post here. (unless I see further lies)
Any pilot reading this thread can feel free to disregard all the attacks, name calling, ect...
But pilots must realize who they will be working for if they join HKA.
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The fact is, attacks aside.. you can't refute Leaving's fact that I and close to 70 overs have resigned from HKA. It was was for two reasons. Lack of Conditions of Service, and exceptionally poor racist managment.
You can't fire 14 of my friends for racial reasons, tell HKE's Ops Mgr he can't hire them, and expect us to stay.
Go ahead refute the facts. You can't.
I'd be really careful to post something like that with a specific; albeit personal reference; unless you have concrete proof. You dun wanna be messing with George Soros/Hainan Airlines Group in a Court of Law for such slanderous remarks; unless you have Bush behind you.
P.S: Trust me! They can hire and fire at will; no apologies nor reasons needed.
You can't fire 14 of my friends for racial reasons, tell HKE's Ops Mgr he can't hire them, and expect us to stay.
Go ahead refute the facts. You can't.
I'd be really careful to post something like that with a specific; albeit personal reference; unless you have concrete proof. You dun wanna be messing with George Soros/Hainan Airlines Group in a Court of Law for such slanderous remarks; unless you have Bush behind you.
P.S: Trust me! They can hire and fire at will; no apologies nor reasons needed.
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Slim,
Nobody is going to be trusting you anytime soon.
Stating the facts has never been slanderous. Have another sip of that Cafe Latte and go back to your desk. You have far too much time on your hands.
Nobody is going to be trusting you anytime soon.
Stating the facts has never been slanderous. Have another sip of that Cafe Latte and go back to your desk. You have far too much time on your hands.