They ARE hurting...
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Recycled, but it appears there is still alot of begging from crew control for people to work on G days etc. Again, they are openly admitting the chronic shortage of crew. There are still many incomplete crew lists out there. I reiterate. DON"T work on G days or be contactable when not required to be so. Challenge their duty changes if you think they are bull****ting you about the legality. As someone mentioned before, get THEM to explain in detail why it is legal. It is still YOUR licence that is on the line if it isn't legal. There are always going to be the selfish few, but they will become known. My no-jumpseat list just keeps getting bigger and bigger. Think about it the next time you get declined for a jumpseat or relegated to J3/4 or your request is left to the last minute to accept/decline. Makes it hard to plan huh???
6 hours reduced rest = no physiological rest
the magic words 'roster disruption' .. not yours ..but the janitor's or someone displaced 3 weeks ago allows the company to forget about giving you a local sleep pattern (10pm-8am)your own time.
Mr H*****d's remarks..
"the regulator and i believe physiological rest has not effect on accumulative ULH fatigue!
Mr H*****d's remarks..
"the regulator and i believe physiological rest has not effect on accumulative ULH fatigue!
why not
why isn't overtime voluntary?
why does the company expect captains to pay each other $1000/hr to operate a flight but they pay 2.5% of 84 hours pay for the whole day (hkg-lax)?
who in their right mind agreed to or even discussed changing the AFTLS?
why do people still operate outside maximum legal rostered duty hours,work on G days or volunteer to work for free?
why does CX feel 'roster disruption' is a blanket excuse to schedule flights outside min rest or max duty.(unacclimatised crew doing nyc-yyz-anc all night)?
appeasement never worked .. all you do is die on your knees.
Agreeing to work for sh*t when you're 20 suddenly doesn't look so good when you're 40 does it?
why does the company expect captains to pay each other $1000/hr to operate a flight but they pay 2.5% of 84 hours pay for the whole day (hkg-lax)?
who in their right mind agreed to or even discussed changing the AFTLS?
why do people still operate outside maximum legal rostered duty hours,work on G days or volunteer to work for free?
why does CX feel 'roster disruption' is a blanket excuse to schedule flights outside min rest or max duty.(unacclimatised crew doing nyc-yyz-anc all night)?
appeasement never worked .. all you do is die on your knees.
Agreeing to work for sh*t when you're 20 suddenly doesn't look so good when you're 40 does it?
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They are very short
A 5 day pattern DXB flight left/is leaving HKG today with an STC as RP! I know it is common practise these days for Captains to be the RQ but this was a last minute change as nobody else was available. A search of the STC's roster indicates that he had training and sim checking duties almost everyday of the 5 including today!
Blokes must be saying no to the G day callouts and this must be hurting the operation. The flight has been crewed but at what cost to training schedules, etc?
Blokes must be saying no to the G day callouts and this must be hurting the operation. The flight has been crewed but at what cost to training schedules, etc?
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You are correct if you are on reserve and you are not obligated to answer your phone before you reserve starts. Some days you will receive many calls before reserve.
CC will call pilots to work on a G day even when someone is on reserve. This way they can maintain the reserve coverage when it starts to get low.
They have been known to change rosters to another flight (with lower hours) citing roster disruption and using G day call outs to do the high hour pairing, thereby reducing someone’s EFP.
Yes, I know they are not allowed to do this, but it’s roster disruption.
CC will call pilots to work on a G day even when someone is on reserve. This way they can maintain the reserve coverage when it starts to get low.
They have been known to change rosters to another flight (with lower hours) citing roster disruption and using G day call outs to do the high hour pairing, thereby reducing someone’s EFP.
Yes, I know they are not allowed to do this, but it’s roster disruption.
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Returned from LA in the evening recently, next day 11am message left asking me to do a 1400 SFO.
Today (G day) been called 3 times...couldn't remember which button to press to answer the phone...
But we do have the right crewing levels because Nick said so in Crews Propaganda, so it must be true.
.....oh, wait....
Today (G day) been called 3 times...couldn't remember which button to press to answer the phone...
But we do have the right crewing levels because Nick said so in Crews Propaganda, so it must be true.
.....oh, wait....
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Why a blunt shouldn't be DFO
How many cat B FOs were there before he took over
How many command failures
How much overtime
I know it irks you to have to control people smarter than you who also get more respect, thats why you should stick with your original study choice.
Animals might believe some of the **** you have been shoveling, might!?
How many command failures
How much overtime
I know it irks you to have to control people smarter than you who also get more respect, thats why you should stick with your original study choice.
Animals might believe some of the **** you have been shoveling, might!?
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Advice for new joiners. You will always know if the DFO is lieing. His lips will be moving or he will be typing. He asserts we don't have a crew shortage, ergo, we do!
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It seems Cathay isn't the classy joint I thought it was...after talking with a colleage of mine about the salaries there now...I get more now.
I think Ill take a secret LOA and try to come over to take a free type rating.
Also, talking with another American Colleague on MSN now who was hired there last year...he just went to get the type and wait for Fedex or UPS to hire him. Smart...smart...
Who wants to live in Hong Kong anyway....what a **** place to live. Heard someone describe it perfectly lately...."like being banished on permanent vacation" ... but dont forget to wear your respirator....lol.
I think Ill take a secret LOA and try to come over to take a free type rating.
Also, talking with another American Colleague on MSN now who was hired there last year...he just went to get the type and wait for Fedex or UPS to hire him. Smart...smart...
Who wants to live in Hong Kong anyway....what a **** place to live. Heard someone describe it perfectly lately...."like being banished on permanent vacation" ... but dont forget to wear your respirator....lol.
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555Orange,
Why would you be concerned with our interview process, and taking a secret LOA to get a type, if your current gig is so good? An honest question, I'm just curious. Also, I would never qualify living in HK as a vacation!!!
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Why would you be concerned with our interview process, and taking a secret LOA to get a type, if your current gig is so good? An honest question, I'm just curious. Also, I would never qualify living in HK as a vacation!!!
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I have work today, but not a full crew is on the roster still, nor for the return trip. Checked the rest of the roster and there are similar gaps. Apparently we are not short on crew though.....
I have work today, but not a full crew is on the roster still, nor for the return trip. Checked the rest of the roster and there are similar gaps. Apparently we are not short on crew though.....