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Hong Kong Airlines orders 50 Airbuses

Old 21st Jun 2007, 11:40
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Hong Kong Airlines orders 50 Airbuses

Seems Hong Kong Airlines have announced a Memorandum of Understanding (Not a firm order yet) for 30 A320s and 20 A330s!!

Seems we have some major competition on the horizon!
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Old 21st Jun 2007, 13:28
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Ad in Flight

They have an ad in this week's Flight mag for pilots.
Competition can only be good for us all because it also means competition for our services.
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Old 21st Jun 2007, 13:57
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what about the Boeings

what about the 787's and 30 737's they have ordered?They had better tell Boeing soon. They could end up being bigger than Dragon.......thats if theres anything left of Dragon in a few years.....
I am heading to Neptunes to speak to the girls......they always know whats going on at HK airlines....
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Old 21st Jun 2007, 15:09
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That’s good news for the crews that want another endorsement and quick commands.

One small thing though..... How are they going to get the 250 +pilots needed to crew those aircraft when they pay the F/O's ONLY 42,000 and the Captains 60 something; WITH NO HOUSING or any extras at all?

They are dreaming. Wake up management, or you will be parking those shiny new Boeings and Airbuses up against the fence. It’s a pilots market. Pay market rate or they walk. It is that simple.
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Old 21st Jun 2007, 17:26
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If it's a pilots market, then why are there so many of you still stuck at Cathay Pacific?

After all, this is a stepping stone job, isn't it?
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Old 22nd Jun 2007, 03:36
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The 787 was never an order...just a Letter of Intent which it seems they have not firmed up on. I think they ordered 20 737s. Not sure if that was also a LOI but between them and Hong Kong Express there are 9 of them in service already
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Old 22nd Jun 2007, 08:00
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As we all know ordering aircraft in China is done on a bid/allocation basis by the central aviation authority.

This is a Hainan Airlines order in disguise.
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Old 22nd Jun 2007, 08:03
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Don't think there will be enough slots in CLK to go round soon! CX must be worried with all the 777s on order.

How long before the 3rd runway is finalised?
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Old 22nd Jun 2007, 08:21
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Agree with Traffic, this looks like Hainan Airlines trying to circumvent the CAAC process. Likely most of these aircraft will be leased to the mainland branches of the Hainan empire.
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Old 1st Nov 2009, 07:50
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Any Airbuses arrived yet?

If the bond on the 737 is $50,000 USD fixed for 5 years I hate to think what the A330 bond is. oopps I forgot it is not a "bond" it is a "training grant"

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Old 1st Nov 2009, 08:26
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Well, just get on it, get the rating, experience and move on.. especially if oneselves do not have jet or an aircraft to fly

All the best!
Happy landings!
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Old 1st Nov 2009, 13:12
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One small thing though..... How are they going to get the 250 +pilots needed to crew those aircraft when they pay the F/O's ONLY 42,000 and the Captains 60 something; WITH NO HOUSING or any extras at all?
They can offer CX Airbus S/O quick command slots.
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Old 1st Nov 2009, 23:59
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And make the HKA/HKE passenger experience even more exciting !
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Old 2nd Nov 2009, 00:21
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Would CX S/Os be happy to take the pay cut and job insecurity ??
( a 3rd year CX S/Os housing is about the same as HKA captains pay )
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Old 2nd Nov 2009, 04:27
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So which corrupt authority is going to give the snakes their bus ratings?

They barely can fly a 737.

S'pose all the money they saved by not paying their pilots properly can be well spent on remedial training for all the singa snakes.
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Old 2nd Nov 2009, 07:43
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any truth to this news anyone??????
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Old 2nd Nov 2009, 12:52
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First A330 is due next year before summer although whether it appears in HKA, HKE or Hainan colours is yet to be seen!
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Old 2nd Nov 2009, 23:23
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As opposed to the initial proposed date of March 2008?

Heard this all before......whatever crap you've been feed, take it with a tiny tiny grain of salt. Remember your talking about the masters of lies.

Come back to us when you have something a bit closer to the truth.
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Old 3rd Nov 2009, 00:32
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May be true this time... but..again, jaga-jaga sedikit geng!
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Of course they're in Hainan colour. Come to join us, Hong Kong Airlines (the Airline in HK)!
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