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Old 25th Dec 2007, 12:47
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Airports forcing troops to change on tarmac?

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this is a thread running on arrse - http://www.arrse.co.uk/cpgn2/Forums/...c/start=0.html

Can anyone think of a reason why they would be forced to change beyond that stated? The guys there are rightly getting hacked off, but I'm wondering if there may be deeper reasons than the one given?
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nothing to do with the crews on this one
sadly its down to the airport authority that insist on this blody stupid rule, think government policy on how the miltary are viewd in public is the biggest issue here to be honest, Bangor international in the US even has a welcome group for all homecoming troops providing free drinks cookies etc
Its caled pride in the military and what they are doing
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All makes sense now...while waiting for my luggage in Brize last week, we were warned over the tannoy that personnel travelling to connecting airports would not be allowed in wearing military uniform.

Another kick in the teeth for our troops.
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Now you have the real truth of what the goverment and authorities think of the servicemen and women, I hope these people will feel ashamed, but I doubt that they will......


Addition......What happened to the earlier Idea " be proud of you uniform "
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Why on earth not???

we were warned over the tannoy that personnel travelling to connecting airports would not be allowed in wearing military uniform.
This makes my blood boil - why on earth should military personnel not be allowed to travel on public transport of any type in uniform?????????? Indeed, one could make the case for those returning from duty in Iraq or Afghanistan to have free travel (in uniform) on public transport, whether it be by air or by train, when transitting to their home address.

Merry Christmas to all those in HM's Armed Forces - and a pox on those who less than wholeheartedly support them.

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Which Airports

Please ID which airport/s. If known we folks in CivAv can get a motion (yup ours maybe bigger than theirs!) going. We can lobby, object, be a bloody pain in the arse greater than they can. This is all down to so called 'counter terrorism applications'. It's a extreme load of old BOLLOCKS. Welcome home folks,**** the numptys, the politicos put you there, now they don't want to see you when you get back!!!!!!

Post the locations for us all in CivAv to act.

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From reading the post on Arrse it would appear to be BHX.
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E Mail to BHX Management

I have just sent the following ill-considered rant to BHX Management. Link to the airport websitesite is on Page 2 of Arrse thread.
Shameful and degrading treatment of Members of HM The Queen's Forces at your airport
Dear Sir/Madam,
It has come to my attention, that your airport humiliated Members of Her Majesty's Armed Forces, returning to this country for well deserved R&R.
They were forced to change from H.M The Queens uniform into civilian clothing and in the open air, it is reported. Not only have you shown total disrespect to these soldiers, but to all our soldiers, sailors and airmen/women. In fact I would go as far as to say that you have insulted the Queen by demonstrating that her uniform is not welcome at your airport.
If this had been any other group of people that had this forced upon them, I would think that lawyers and the police would be involved. I further add that I have seen people dressed in 75% + of military and combat clothing and they seem to have no trouble. They are popularly known as "Goths" and they are no more threat to you, your airport or its security then the disciplined and dedicated members of our Armed Forces that some jobsworth at your airport has seen fit to treat so shamefully.
I walk round UK cities and see many people draped from head to toe in Burquas and I am sure you have them at your airport too. How are these strangely dressed people less of a threat to your security than the uniformed defenders of this country?
Are policemen carrying loaded weapons allowed to walk on patrol in and around your airport? If so why not unarmed soldiers in uniform?
I look forward to your response.
Regards

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Civil airports have NO authority over military personnel. The senior military Officer present does.

One of our own wimped out.
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I'd get some tee-shirts printed with a massive Sqn. or Regimental crest. This sort of stuff completely p.....s me off.

And another thing what was the Archbishop of Canterbury going on about, re the environment etc....He should have been leading prayers for our TROOPS !!!!

I was heartened to see the Queen take the usual lead on this !
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Forwarded link to BBC, ITC, Sky news ... lets all make a huge fuss and get this crap treatment made very very public
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StbdD

If you have an idea who this numpty was, I will make representations to OC unit/Regt etc. Plse PM me. Also to those, sorry can't put into words, @ MoD.

Yup I'm a CivAv guy not Mil.
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I've just sent an email to Private Eye. Really makes my blood boil. HM the Queen's Christmas message was very appropriate, and there have been some good items on News 24 recently including one on the AAC crews.
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Old 25th Dec 2007, 20:36
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A simple F##K O## and walk in would seem to be the answer.
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I'm having the greatest difficulty believing this. Is anyone really this stupid in our country today?
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The OinC knew for sure, he would face the PC bowler hat crowd had he refused the order.
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If you go to this site ... top right is a "contact me" link .... if enough of us do it perhaps he will actually take the PM on over this ??? What do we have to lose by trying ?

http://www.davidcameronmp.com
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Avitor, what 'order'? Given by whom?
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Chaps and Chapessess I want to reply on this one , BUT, the blood is beginning to boil. and this is the nicest day I have had in 20 years! So I will not answer and stay calm. I will reply tomorrow, when I can assure you that my full wrath and venom will be directed at aiming a campaign against this s***e. I suggest EVERYONE sends a link into here! The first unstaged and the second may have been, but the message remains the same.

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A2QFI....
Avitor, what 'order'? Given by whom?
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I am assuming the change of attire was not voluntary, are you assuming the OinC gave the order on his/her own initiative?
If that is so, then I stand corrected.
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