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If you are referring to the recruiting by Helicrew Solutions, I put in a CV, but was told I am too old!!!! The age limit is 50 - something to do with insurance. Not too happy, but such is life.
Cheers all.
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It reminds me of Joseph Heller's book Catch 22.
To paraphrase the book: Because of the extreme nature of the place If you want to go there there must be something wrong with you, therefore we don't want you. On the other hand if you don't want to go then your the guy we want.
To paraphrase the book: Because of the extreme nature of the place If you want to go there there must be something wrong with you, therefore we don't want you. On the other hand if you don't want to go then your the guy we want.
Now I know this is a rumour network....but this whole situation is worrying me.
The advert goes out...some folks respond...some get no answer...some get positive answers...some get hokey answers about insurance...some about an age 50 cutoff. Stong aroma of skunk here!
Good thing it is not a USA based outfit that said age was a criteria.....it can be...but you cannot say it is.....or be proven to have used age to discriminate against an otherwise qualified applicant.
However....that being said....if it is US Aid funds being used.....as part of the contract with the US Government will be just such clauses in the contract.
Why can the helicopter industry not run on an ethical basis that raises no questions about integrity?
The advert goes out...some folks respond...some get no answer...some get positive answers...some get hokey answers about insurance...some about an age 50 cutoff. Stong aroma of skunk here!
Good thing it is not a USA based outfit that said age was a criteria.....it can be...but you cannot say it is.....or be proven to have used age to discriminate against an otherwise qualified applicant.
However....that being said....if it is US Aid funds being used.....as part of the contract with the US Government will be just such clauses in the contract.
Why can the helicopter industry not run on an ethical basis that raises no questions about integrity?
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Why can the helicopter industry not run on an ethical basis that raises no questions about integrity?
One would think that the practical experience for flying in a war zone would more likely be gained in the military.
Civies need not apply...................until the locals have shot down all of the ex-mil personnel
Civies need not apply...................until the locals have shot down all of the ex-mil personnel
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These guy's are fiction......if they knew what they where doing, they would NOT need to advertise in a magazine......even Dynacorp or everybody's favorite secret airline Evergreen 
knows this.....but at least they are credible in weird contracts
Kevlar is itchy anyway....
knows this.....but at least they are credible in weird contracts Kevlar is itchy anyway....
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I was called to go!
I constantly get offers from big operators to go work in weird places.
Its funny, but some major US operators prefer to hire non US citizens for these jobs. I have friends that have been hired over much more qualified US candidates to go to Africa just because they were not US citizens, and their reasoning was that if they ever got into trouble it didn't make such a big deal in the media and politically, in some places in Africa US citizens were not really welcome but if you came from say Peru or Mexico it was never a problem, plus I guess you can't kidnap a Peruvian and put him on TV begging to withdraw troops from Irak since these countries are not even participating in the . . . . . . well you know.
Its funny, but some major US operators prefer to hire non US citizens for these jobs. I have friends that have been hired over much more qualified US candidates to go to Africa just because they were not US citizens, and their reasoning was that if they ever got into trouble it didn't make such a big deal in the media and politically, in some places in Africa US citizens were not really welcome but if you came from say Peru or Mexico it was never a problem, plus I guess you can't kidnap a Peruvian and put him on TV begging to withdraw troops from Irak since these countries are not even participating in the . . . . . . well you know.
Blender...
I have been told by a little birdie that Spanish speakers work cheap and don't complain like their Yankee brothers too. There is some truth to what you say....easier to deny someone that is not carrying that blue passport. Of course a Gringo working down south can find himself a hostage pleading for his life as well.
When you guys going to start drawing combat pay for working around Nuevo Laredo?
I have been told by a little birdie that Spanish speakers work cheap and don't complain like their Yankee brothers too. There is some truth to what you say....easier to deny someone that is not carrying that blue passport. Of course a Gringo working down south can find himself a hostage pleading for his life as well.
When you guys going to start drawing combat pay for working around Nuevo Laredo?
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SASless,
What you say is definately true for people that work in the fields picking oranges, but for pilots its the other way around completely, the reason is that being a pilot in the US is almost "blue collar" work in many instances, anybody with a good loan and determination can become a pilot and there are thousands of people becoming pilots everyday, usually supply equals demand, and pilot pay is usually not the best amongst profesional workers in the US.
In Latin America people that become pilots are either very rich to be able to pay their training or military which are always the lesser part of the pilot pool, either way pilot supply is very limited, jobs are well paid, equipment is usually new or almost new, for example offshore pilots over here work 14 on 14 off, get airfare home every 14 days, go to FlightSafety at least once a year and fly brand new 412's, the money is comparable to what their counterparts make, and they stay in good hotels not trailers, so why move?
Actually the recent trend has been to bring US operators to do such things as fight fires because they are much cheaper, they bring old UH1's that over here nobody wants to fly do the work for less money than the local companies which operate to a different standard, sort of like the Russians in Spain.
What you say is definately true for people that work in the fields picking oranges, but for pilots its the other way around completely, the reason is that being a pilot in the US is almost "blue collar" work in many instances, anybody with a good loan and determination can become a pilot and there are thousands of people becoming pilots everyday, usually supply equals demand, and pilot pay is usually not the best amongst profesional workers in the US.
In Latin America people that become pilots are either very rich to be able to pay their training or military which are always the lesser part of the pilot pool, either way pilot supply is very limited, jobs are well paid, equipment is usually new or almost new, for example offshore pilots over here work 14 on 14 off, get airfare home every 14 days, go to FlightSafety at least once a year and fly brand new 412's, the money is comparable to what their counterparts make, and they stay in good hotels not trailers, so why move?
Actually the recent trend has been to bring US operators to do such things as fight fires because they are much cheaper, they bring old UH1's that over here nobody wants to fly do the work for less money than the local companies which operate to a different standard, sort of like the Russians in Spain.
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Wages for a 60/30 schedule with Blackwater is reported to be in the $140-190K range: KiowaPilots.
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Great video. Brave men! My kahunas must be tiny in relation to these guys/girls.
Like the comment that no one will come and pick you up if shot down, which met the reply that 'they will come, dress you in orange pyjamas and make you famous'.
They are still massively underpaid.
Like the comment that no one will come and pick you up if shot down, which met the reply that 'they will come, dress you in orange pyjamas and make you famous'.
They are still massively underpaid.