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Thank you, but this was the very first source...
A further deep insight would be very welcome...
Rgds
A further deep insight would be very welcome...
Rgds
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Also this head hunter has advertised hiring for Jade
http://%20www.vega-aviation.com/
Also this head hunter has advertised hiring for Jade
http://%20www.vega-aviation.com/
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Hi Folks
I`ve done the whole selection, the sreeening process in FRA with Experts from DLR. I`ve taken the english test and I went in the simulator.
So good so far...
But then they asked me to go to Shenzhen China, to complete the selection by taking the last step and do the medical.
If any of you thought that the medical that applies towards your ATPL license is enough....is simply death wrong.
First of all: they won`t pay for the trip.....unless one day you will get hired!
Secondly the failure rate of this chinese medical is rediciulous.
We were like 12 People, all well experienced Pilots with thounsands of hours, mostly PiC`s and guess what.
80% failed the medical!!!
Even the Post Holder Flight Ops. at Jade Cargo dind`t make it!!!
It seems that if one applies for an initial ATPL in China you will get measured with any 20 Year old applicant for the Chinese Air Force.
But thats not all. There is a system behind this. The Chinese are just trying to protect their own Pilots. The bad thing about tis - they don`t speak english...
Jade Cargo is only going to hire Pilots with experience and a proper education including english...
Another thing noone ever talks about. If you were hired as Copilot
ät Jade Cargo, to get Upgaraded you will again have to pass the chinese ATPL and get this : IN CHINESE !!! ( written and oral!)
So you see there are may different patrameters they still need to sort out.
Until then, most former applicants are gone elswhere.
cheers bolzi
I`ve done the whole selection, the sreeening process in FRA with Experts from DLR. I`ve taken the english test and I went in the simulator.
So good so far...
But then they asked me to go to Shenzhen China, to complete the selection by taking the last step and do the medical.
If any of you thought that the medical that applies towards your ATPL license is enough....is simply death wrong.
First of all: they won`t pay for the trip.....unless one day you will get hired!
Secondly the failure rate of this chinese medical is rediciulous.
We were like 12 People, all well experienced Pilots with thounsands of hours, mostly PiC`s and guess what.
80% failed the medical!!!
Even the Post Holder Flight Ops. at Jade Cargo dind`t make it!!!
It seems that if one applies for an initial ATPL in China you will get measured with any 20 Year old applicant for the Chinese Air Force.
But thats not all. There is a system behind this. The Chinese are just trying to protect their own Pilots. The bad thing about tis - they don`t speak english...
Jade Cargo is only going to hire Pilots with experience and a proper education including english...
Another thing noone ever talks about. If you were hired as Copilot
ät Jade Cargo, to get Upgaraded you will again have to pass the chinese ATPL and get this : IN CHINESE !!! ( written and oral!)
So you see there are may different patrameters they still need to sort out.
Until then, most former applicants are gone elswhere.
cheers bolzi
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hi Folks
about the Pay...once you get hired
PiC 9500$ plus allowens plus 65$up to 100$ per diem
Copi 6500$ plus the rest.
Teh alllowens is ot yet defined. It will very much depend on the situation and wheter they are building their own accomodation.
DLR is no swet if you do speak a proper English...!!
Starts with english test. 90 Questions around an hour..
Psychology test thereafter. the MMPI type with around 235 Questions...be careful b/c you will only get a few seconds to answer each Question.
Tehn they will ask you to participate in a CRM Test. might be tricky if you are to safety minded. What they want is to see that you keep up a regular communication with all type of peope.
Be automatism minded..e.g. Airbus...
The inteniew afterwards depends on your previous test only.
As for ther SIM
you willl find yourself in a B737/300 most probably
usually FRA with a F/D A/T LNAV departure...
once aloft he will aske you if yxou are ready...
turn offall automatics. Handflown airwork. turns with climb and descent.
Accellerations to a certain speed. slow down to flap 15 speed almost to stallspeed.
Then theyask you with radar Vectors for an ILS Raw data.
At the minimum you will find the Rwy blocked...! G/A
Engine failure with a non standard G/A padern.
Back for another Appr. this time ( PIiC only ) a single Engine NDB DME. ( minimum weater )
landing to a full stop.
Thats all for now folks
cheers bolzi
about the Pay...once you get hired
PiC 9500$ plus allowens plus 65$up to 100$ per diem
Copi 6500$ plus the rest.
Teh alllowens is ot yet defined. It will very much depend on the situation and wheter they are building their own accomodation.
DLR is no swet if you do speak a proper English...!!
Starts with english test. 90 Questions around an hour..
Psychology test thereafter. the MMPI type with around 235 Questions...be careful b/c you will only get a few seconds to answer each Question.
Tehn they will ask you to participate in a CRM Test. might be tricky if you are to safety minded. What they want is to see that you keep up a regular communication with all type of peope.
Be automatism minded..e.g. Airbus...
The inteniew afterwards depends on your previous test only.
As for ther SIM
you willl find yourself in a B737/300 most probably
usually FRA with a F/D A/T LNAV departure...
once aloft he will aske you if yxou are ready...
turn offall automatics. Handflown airwork. turns with climb and descent.
Accellerations to a certain speed. slow down to flap 15 speed almost to stallspeed.
Then theyask you with radar Vectors for an ILS Raw data.
At the minimum you will find the Rwy blocked...! G/A
Engine failure with a non standard G/A padern.
Back for another Appr. this time ( PIiC only ) a single Engine NDB DME. ( minimum weater )
landing to a full stop.
Thats all for now folks
cheers bolzi
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Hi guys I am invited for this interview next week in China as well as about 30 others guys
I have only few questions?
Is it a commuting job??
How many days of holliday per year?
They wrote me that the Sim will be on B777
Thank s
I have only few questions?
Is it a commuting job??
How many days of holliday per year?
They wrote me that the Sim will be on B777
Thank s
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Re: Jade Cargo
Just a couple of questions if I may and would be grateful if someone has the knowledge to pass it on:
Where is the position based?
Is reloctaion costs paid or assisted?
What about family education allowance?
Medical and dental cover?
Loss of licence program?
Provident or retirement plan?
Where is the pay deposited (which country) and in what currency?
What is the rostering system - ie seniority or assigned?
Annual leave provisions per year?
Any staff travel available and if so is it simply interline or other arrangements apply?
Are you paid properly during training?
In any case, wishing you all safe flying and very best of luck.
Shei-shen (my spelling is not very good)
Where is the position based?
Is reloctaion costs paid or assisted?
What about family education allowance?
Medical and dental cover?
Loss of licence program?
Provident or retirement plan?
Where is the pay deposited (which country) and in what currency?
What is the rostering system - ie seniority or assigned?
Annual leave provisions per year?
Any staff travel available and if so is it simply interline or other arrangements apply?
Are you paid properly during training?
In any case, wishing you all safe flying and very best of luck.
Shei-shen (my spelling is not very good)
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To AN3 Bolt and all the others interested to join Jade
I was there about 5 days ago and I asked all those questions and I did not get any answer .So they told me I did not have enough motivation and I told them it was true because what is the point to leave my job if they can not tell me if we can get a 10 days Off in row, if they have a medical and dental plan, loss of license, life insurance and annual leave
I met a guy there which is working for Shenzhen Airlines and he told me he d ont have any travelling agreement
No one speak english in town even in the 5 star hotel of Shenzhen Airlines Hotel. It is their Hotel and they did not provide free breakfast.
The test are quite easy. one english test of 188 questions (30 minutes max) Then one CRM test of 90 questions and one Personnality test of 234 questions. All those test are multiple choice. It takes about 1 hour an 30 minutes. Then you have the Personnality interview which is about 40 minutes
I got the feeling that it will be a LOW Cost Cargo Cie.
I was there about 5 days ago and I asked all those questions and I did not get any answer .So they told me I did not have enough motivation and I told them it was true because what is the point to leave my job if they can not tell me if we can get a 10 days Off in row, if they have a medical and dental plan, loss of license, life insurance and annual leave
I met a guy there which is working for Shenzhen Airlines and he told me he d ont have any travelling agreement
No one speak english in town even in the 5 star hotel of Shenzhen Airlines Hotel. It is their Hotel and they did not provide free breakfast.
The test are quite easy. one english test of 188 questions (30 minutes max) Then one CRM test of 90 questions and one Personnality test of 234 questions. All those test are multiple choice. It takes about 1 hour an 30 minutes. Then you have the Personnality interview which is about 40 minutes
I got the feeling that it will be a LOW Cost Cargo Cie.
Quite amazing-
They mounted full page adds in Flight two weeks in a row, but hadn't worked out what they were going to pay or where their prospective pilots were going to live!!
If I were involved in the German connection to these these clowns, I'd be VERY wary of my investment!!
They mounted full page adds in Flight two weeks in a row, but hadn't worked out what they were going to pay or where their prospective pilots were going to live!!
If I were involved in the German connection to these these clowns, I'd be VERY wary of my investment!!
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Hi chaps have read your thread with interest.
I am 747-400 rated with 5000 hours on type and have not heard a word from this mob. I wonder if they are looking for people who will do anything to get on the jumbo. Most likely you will not have any flight time limitations and if you complain about anything, (once your are employed) you will probably find yourself unemployed very quickly.
Shenzen is a dump like most of southern china so if you go there expect very poluted air and most people will not speak english.
Max
I am 747-400 rated with 5000 hours on type and have not heard a word from this mob. I wonder if they are looking for people who will do anything to get on the jumbo. Most likely you will not have any flight time limitations and if you complain about anything, (once your are employed) you will probably find yourself unemployed very quickly.
Shenzen is a dump like most of southern china so if you go there expect very poluted air and most people will not speak english.
Max
