ATR down near Palermo (Merged)
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Possibly a Tunisian ATR... PMO closed due degradation of SAR coverage.
RAI 2 says its an ATR 42 from Bari to Djerba.. attempting to land in Palermo, ditched off Capo Gallo. Survivors seen near the fuselage which is a good sign.
RAI 2 says its an ATR 42 from Bari to Djerba.. attempting to land in Palermo, ditched off Capo Gallo. Survivors seen near the fuselage which is a good sign.
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RAI report now mentioning ATR 72... apparently aircraft still floating with up to five survivors standing on the wings. More survivors seen floating around the craft. Not more than 35 pax thought to be on board. Crash occurred around 1355 UTC about 13KM north/north east of PMO.
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Cnn is reporting that 11 people are dead, most on board were tourists heading home to the island of Djerba (spelling...)
39 on board,8 survivors at least, 11 said dead, CNN reporting...
39 on board,8 survivors at least, 11 said dead, CNN reporting...
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At least 20 survivors. CNN was only speculating about the 11 dead. Nothing official yet.
For those who understand Italian, here is what RAI are saying on their website:
Palermo, 6 agosto 2005
Il velivolo era partito da Bari ed era in volo per Djerba, in Tunisia. Poi ha dovuto tentare un atterraggio di emergenza all'aeroporto di Palermo, ma qualcosa è andata male l'Atr 42 è finito in mare.
Il velivolo è stato avvistato a 13 km al largo di Palermo. A bordo c'erano 39 persone tra passeggeri e equipaggio. Secondo testimoni alcuni passeggeri sarebbero stati avvistati sulle ali del mezzo in mare mentre chiedono aiuto.
I soccorritori hanno già portato in salvo almeno 20 persone.
Il presidente dell'Enac (Ente Nazionale Aviazione Civile), Vito Riggio, ha detto che "l'Atr della Tunintair, un charter in volo da Bari all' isola di Djerba in Tunisia, aveva chiesto alla torre di controllo dell' aeroporto di Punta Raisi, di poter effettuare un atterraggio di emergenza".
"L' aereo - ha aggiunto - galleggia e non si sa ancora se vi siano vittime".
L'Atr della Tunisair aveva contattato il centro di controllo di Roma dichiarando un'avaria al motore e chiedendo di poter atterrare all'aeroporto di Punta Raisi.
Nell'ultimo contatto con la torre di controllo, alle 15.37 il pilota avrebbe detto: "Non ce la faccio ad atterrare, sto ammarando".
At least 5 dead.................
For those who understand Italian, here is what RAI are saying on their website:
Palermo, 6 agosto 2005
Il velivolo era partito da Bari ed era in volo per Djerba, in Tunisia. Poi ha dovuto tentare un atterraggio di emergenza all'aeroporto di Palermo, ma qualcosa è andata male l'Atr 42 è finito in mare.
Il velivolo è stato avvistato a 13 km al largo di Palermo. A bordo c'erano 39 persone tra passeggeri e equipaggio. Secondo testimoni alcuni passeggeri sarebbero stati avvistati sulle ali del mezzo in mare mentre chiedono aiuto.
I soccorritori hanno già portato in salvo almeno 20 persone.
Il presidente dell'Enac (Ente Nazionale Aviazione Civile), Vito Riggio, ha detto che "l'Atr della Tunintair, un charter in volo da Bari all' isola di Djerba in Tunisia, aveva chiesto alla torre di controllo dell' aeroporto di Punta Raisi, di poter effettuare un atterraggio di emergenza".
"L' aereo - ha aggiunto - galleggia e non si sa ancora se vi siano vittime".
L'Atr della Tunisair aveva contattato il centro di controllo di Roma dichiarando un'avaria al motore e chiedendo di poter atterrare all'aeroporto di Punta Raisi.
Nell'ultimo contatto con la torre di controllo, alle 15.37 il pilota avrebbe detto: "Non ce la faccio ad atterrare, sto ammarando".
At least 5 dead.................
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actual links:
http://www.corriere.it/Primo_Piano/C...06/aereo.shtml
http://aviation-safety.net/database/...?id=20050806-0
http://www.jacdec.de/news.htm
My condolences for all relatives and friends of the victims
http://www.corriere.it/Primo_Piano/C...06/aereo.shtml
http://aviation-safety.net/database/...?id=20050806-0
http://www.jacdec.de/news.htm
My condolences for all relatives and friends of the victims
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Palermo ditching -details
Accident description
Status: Preliminary
Date: 06 AUG 2005
Time: 15:55
Type: ATR-72-202
Operator: Tuninter
Registration: TS-LBB
Msn / C/n: 258
Crew: ? fatalities / ? on board
Passengers: ? fatalities / ? on board
Total: 9 fatalities / 39 on board
Airplane damage: Written off
Location: 25 km (15.6 mls) off Palermo-Punta Raisi Airport (PMO) (Italy)
Phase: En route (ENR)
Nature: Int'l Non Scheduled Passenger
Departure airport: Bari-Palese Airport (BRI)
Destination airport: Djerba-Melita Airport (DJE)
Flightnumber: 1153
Narrative:
A Tuninter ATR was en route from Bari, Italy to Djerba, Tunisia when the aircraft reportedly developed engine problems. At 15:24 the crew contacted Palermo for an emergency landing. They did not make it to Palermo and ditched in the sea around 15:40. Coast guard vessels reportedly saw surivors on the wings of the floating airplane. At least nine persons are understood to have died.
Preliminary reports suggest that the airplane involved in the accident was TS-LBB.
Source: (also check out sources used for every accident)
ANSA, Reuters
Condolences to the victims relatives
Status: Preliminary
Date: 06 AUG 2005
Time: 15:55
Type: ATR-72-202
Operator: Tuninter
Registration: TS-LBB
Msn / C/n: 258
Crew: ? fatalities / ? on board
Passengers: ? fatalities / ? on board
Total: 9 fatalities / 39 on board
Airplane damage: Written off
Location: 25 km (15.6 mls) off Palermo-Punta Raisi Airport (PMO) (Italy)
Phase: En route (ENR)
Nature: Int'l Non Scheduled Passenger
Departure airport: Bari-Palese Airport (BRI)
Destination airport: Djerba-Melita Airport (DJE)
Flightnumber: 1153
Narrative:
A Tuninter ATR was en route from Bari, Italy to Djerba, Tunisia when the aircraft reportedly developed engine problems. At 15:24 the crew contacted Palermo for an emergency landing. They did not make it to Palermo and ditched in the sea around 15:40. Coast guard vessels reportedly saw surivors on the wings of the floating airplane. At least nine persons are understood to have died.
Preliminary reports suggest that the airplane involved in the accident was TS-LBB.
Source: (also check out sources used for every accident)
ANSA, Reuters
Condolences to the victims relatives
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Supposedly 24 confirmed survivors and 10 dead. Some unaccounted for.
Apparently the ditching followed an attempted landing at Palermo. Problems initiated by engine trouble according to ATC.
Shocked to hear CNN reporting that "It's not a normal jet, y'know it has wings...." I mean?!!
Anyway, aside from the reporters, Godspeed to all involved.
Apparently the ditching followed an attempted landing at Palermo. Problems initiated by engine trouble according to ATC.
Shocked to hear CNN reporting that "It's not a normal jet, y'know it has wings...." I mean?!!
Anyway, aside from the reporters, Godspeed to all involved.
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at this point we have 19 fatalities and 20 survivors
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...plane_crash_11
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...plane_crash_11
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ATR down off Palermo
FYI, following is an update from BBC:
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Many die in jet crash off Sicily
The plane was headed to the Tunisian island of Djerba
At least 14 people were killed when a Tunisian passenger plane made an emergency landing in the sea off the Italian island of Sicily.
There were 39 passengers and crew on board the plane operated by a subsidiary of Tunisair, Tuninter.
At least 20 have been rescued, with many of them seriously injured. Five are still missing.
The plane was on its way from the southern Italian town of Bari to the Tunisian resort island of Djerba.
A full search and rescue operation quickly got under way at the crash site some 13km (eight miles) off the Sicilian coast, but rescuers now say no-one is left inside the plane.
The first survivors were landed in the Sicilian town of Palermo from a coastguard vessel just over two hours after the crash.
Two small children are among the dead, rescuers said.
Anxious relatives and friends gathered at Bari airport for news of the rescue operation.
One woman said as she was carried off the coastguard vessel that it was a miracle anyone survived.
Engine problems
Italian divers said they had managed to secure floats around the fuselage to prevent the aircraft from sinking.
Officials at Bari airport said most of the passengers were young Italian tourists. The crew of Flight TUI 1153 is said to be Tunisian.
Earlier on Saturday, the pilot of the plane advised air traffic control that he was trying to make an emergency landing at Palermo airport, but came down in the sea instead.
Chafik Garbi, who survived, reportedly told Italian aviation authorities after the crash that the motors lost power forcing him to make an emergency landing at sea, the AFP news agency reports.
"The plane had engine problems and was trying to land in Palermo and had to land in the sea," a spokeswoman for Italy's air safety agency told the Associated Press news agency earlier.
The aircraft was an ATR-72, a French-made twin-engine turbo-prop aircraft which can carry up to 72 passengers. It had earlier been reported to be an ATR-42.
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Many die in jet crash off Sicily
The plane was headed to the Tunisian island of Djerba
At least 14 people were killed when a Tunisian passenger plane made an emergency landing in the sea off the Italian island of Sicily.
There were 39 passengers and crew on board the plane operated by a subsidiary of Tunisair, Tuninter.
At least 20 have been rescued, with many of them seriously injured. Five are still missing.
The plane was on its way from the southern Italian town of Bari to the Tunisian resort island of Djerba.
A full search and rescue operation quickly got under way at the crash site some 13km (eight miles) off the Sicilian coast, but rescuers now say no-one is left inside the plane.
The first survivors were landed in the Sicilian town of Palermo from a coastguard vessel just over two hours after the crash.
Two small children are among the dead, rescuers said.
Anxious relatives and friends gathered at Bari airport for news of the rescue operation.
One woman said as she was carried off the coastguard vessel that it was a miracle anyone survived.
Engine problems
Italian divers said they had managed to secure floats around the fuselage to prevent the aircraft from sinking.
Officials at Bari airport said most of the passengers were young Italian tourists. The crew of Flight TUI 1153 is said to be Tunisian.
Earlier on Saturday, the pilot of the plane advised air traffic control that he was trying to make an emergency landing at Palermo airport, but came down in the sea instead.
Chafik Garbi, who survived, reportedly told Italian aviation authorities after the crash that the motors lost power forcing him to make an emergency landing at sea, the AFP news agency reports.
"The plane had engine problems and was trying to land in Palermo and had to land in the sea," a spokeswoman for Italy's air safety agency told the Associated Press news agency earlier.
The aircraft was an ATR-72, a French-made twin-engine turbo-prop aircraft which can carry up to 72 passengers. It had earlier been reported to be an ATR-42.
Last edited by LatviaCalling; 6th Aug 2005 at 20:45.
How can BOTH engines fail like that? - unless the wrong one was shut down, as in the Kegworth disaster.
From what I gather they did declare an emergency due to an engine. OPossibly they even shut it down. The shut down procedure is now just one of many questions, since with a propellor proper feathering is important.
We really do need some more facts here, from the survivors as well as ATC.