Stupidly lucky....or luckily stupid
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This little gem of a video has appeared recently. I leave others to pass judgement
JetRanger (over) torque turn.
JetRanger (over) torque turn.
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From: Australia
Sweaty Palms
I personally have sweaty palms after watching that little one.
Wow...he judged it well Huh ?
NOT !
PS - The passenger bit was a tad unthoughtful I thought.

Wow...he judged it well Huh ?
NOT !
PS - The passenger bit was a tad unthoughtful I thought.

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Wow!!!!.........HMMMM
If you look closely at the point of touchdown, you can get a view of the tail boom flexing!..have a look also at the coning angle !!
Im glad the spectators thought it was funny! I hope he got his @SS kicked for that!....i bet thats the last helo ride for those pax!
Oh...if anything good advert for Bell of the ruggedness of their ship! but im sure they would have found a few things to look at anyway!
If you look closely at the point of touchdown, you can get a view of the tail boom flexing!..have a look also at the coning angle !!
Im glad the spectators thought it was funny! I hope he got his @SS kicked for that!....i bet thats the last helo ride for those pax!
Oh...if anything good advert for Bell of the ruggedness of their ship! but im sure they would have found a few things to look at anyway!
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From: where-ever my head hits a pillow
Don't think the landing was intended. He just ran out of airspace due to him doing the wingover exit downwind. Watch the windsock in the last part of the clip. A big no-no if your are going to do this that low. I am sure someone in there needed a pants change after that
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I agree with oryxs, he simply ran out of airspace to recover.
Fortunately he was 'skids level' when he hit.
I witnessed the exact same maneuver, but using a b47, in front of a small crowd like that, but unfortunately it didn't end so happily for the two onboard.
This guy was lucky. VERY lucky.
Fortunately he was 'skids level' when he hit.
I witnessed the exact same maneuver, but using a b47, in front of a small crowd like that, but unfortunately it didn't end so happily for the two onboard.
This guy was lucky. VERY lucky.
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From: USA
The touchdown was surely unintentional, the result of his lack of understanding of how to do that kind of maneuver. The impact was gentle, as measured by the skid deflection, which was small (a few inches) and not permanent. The tail cone oscillation is big, but actually at the high end of normal (try it on the ground, and see how it bounces when you shove on it.)
One lucky guy, who really did nothing to earn that luck, judging by his first pass, which was so low it was actionable all by itself.
In any descent maneuver like that "torque turn" the pilot should never still be in a true maneuver state as he approaches the ground. Display pilots know that you just exit the upper maneuver and stabilize the descent, then smoothly fly down to the desired pass altitude with virtually no G on the aircraft. This guy was still in his pullout trying to avoid the ground when he touched. Very bad technique, not likely to turn into a habit!
One lucky guy, who really did nothing to earn that luck, judging by his first pass, which was so low it was actionable all by itself.
In any descent maneuver like that "torque turn" the pilot should never still be in a true maneuver state as he approaches the ground. Display pilots know that you just exit the upper maneuver and stabilize the descent, then smoothly fly down to the desired pass altitude with virtually no G on the aircraft. This guy was still in his pullout trying to avoid the ground when he touched. Very bad technique, not likely to turn into a habit!

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I found Ohlsdorf - as far as I know it is not an other word for ****. It is in Austria.
Ohlsdorf "Airport"
It is the "airport" of a modell airplane club. That guy did his stunt on a runway for radio controlled airplanes. That probably explains why the runway was smooth enough that nothing happend.
In the long run it will probably save lives if the FOCA of Austria revokes the license of that pilot.
Ohlsdorf "Airport"
It is the "airport" of a modell airplane club. That guy did his stunt on a runway for radio controlled airplanes. That probably explains why the runway was smooth enough that nothing happend.
In the long run it will probably save lives if the FOCA of Austria revokes the license of that pilot.
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From: Lancashire U K
It is totally , utterly unfair, that Pilot treats his 206 like a childs toboggan,
where I would pamper it , and wash and polish it at least once per week, and keep it pristine for the days when the sun was shinning, ready to get off some where exotic,
well I can dream, can't I
What a pratt of a pilot, some one , one day will buy that HELI,
Vfr
where I would pamper it , and wash and polish it at least once per week, and keep it pristine for the days when the sun was shinning, ready to get off some where exotic,
well I can dream, can't I
What a pratt of a pilot, some one , one day will buy that HELI,
Vfr
Just a numbered other


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Hmmmmm
several VERY lucky people in that machine.
Can anyone translate the commentary, which seems to miss the gravity of what is going on. A gnat's cock lower in that recovery and there would be a lot of high energy sharp bits of 206 amongst the onlookers.
What an utter dork
several VERY lucky people in that machine.
Can anyone translate the commentary, which seems to miss the gravity of what is going on. A gnat's cock lower in that recovery and there would be a lot of high energy sharp bits of 206 amongst the onlookers.
What an utter dork


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There is an Oz media pilot who did a similar move when he was in the army - in front of the General - and rolled it up big time. He left the army soon afterwards.

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The commentary tells more or less how good the pilot is:
"It shows how far the pilot can go, he touched the ground with the skids."
Na, that guy did not realise how close they where to an absolute tragedy.
I really wonder what happend to the pilot afterwards.
"It shows how far the pilot can go, he touched the ground with the skids."
Na, that guy did not realise how close they where to an absolute tragedy.
I really wonder what happend to the pilot afterwards.
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Am I the only person that thinks this is an Radio Controlled (albeit rather large!) helicopter?
When I first looked at the clip, my first impression was that it was certainly a large RC ship. But after a few more viewings, I wasn't so sure.
But then someone says it takes place at an RC field. Too much coincidence for me.
The pitch rate of the fuselage when it touches the ground seems to high for a real JR. I believe the real thing would have more inertia, slower reaction rate, and probably sink further into the ground, etc. Also, the occupants just look too, well, fake.
I've seen a clip of a F-14D RC model that you'd swear was the real thing, and the clip started at TAXI !! It was flying from a scale airport, right down to the taxiway signs. But, after carefully watching the motion, you could tell it didn't weight 100klbs.
Reminds me of the old "Sea Hunt" scenes that were filmed in a pool with little models.
Of course, if it is, then the crazy person is anyone standing that close to a huge unmanned skilsaw !
HOSS
When I first looked at the clip, my first impression was that it was certainly a large RC ship. But after a few more viewings, I wasn't so sure.
But then someone says it takes place at an RC field. Too much coincidence for me.
The pitch rate of the fuselage when it touches the ground seems to high for a real JR. I believe the real thing would have more inertia, slower reaction rate, and probably sink further into the ground, etc. Also, the occupants just look too, well, fake.
I've seen a clip of a F-14D RC model that you'd swear was the real thing, and the clip started at TAXI !! It was flying from a scale airport, right down to the taxiway signs. But, after carefully watching the motion, you could tell it didn't weight 100klbs.
Reminds me of the old "Sea Hunt" scenes that were filmed in a pool with little models.
Of course, if it is, then the crazy person is anyone standing that close to a huge unmanned skilsaw !
HOSS
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From: the great white north
if that guy had crashed, which i think we can all say we are suprised he didn't, then that would have been one other example of how the public would see helicopters as a menace. hopefully, the owner of the machine or the appropriate authority would ban that sh*&head from ever flying again.
i get asked to do hammerheads from stupid customers all the time and i have always refused. i don't have the right to fool around like that with someone elses machine and certainly not with pax on board, even if they are morons.
i get asked to do hammerheads from stupid customers all the time and i have always refused. i don't have the right to fool around like that with someone elses machine and certainly not with pax on board, even if they are morons.



