The tax subject as usual is a sensitive subject. Win or loose , have to come from a previous status. If you join , you will not loose because you will get what you signed for.

Now, if you choose a flying career according to the size of the payslip, you will have a poor day and a dull life. ANY flying is good if you can enjoy it. It is all about lifestyle and ego satisfaction. 1 prop , 2 PT6, 3 TFE731 or 4 RR5000 ? It is all the same..
Your best bet is to live where you will comfortable, with the persons you love the most and have a little bit of money to enjoy the package. If you can meet this lucky you, if not....

Many stories about the taxes, the facts as today are :

You sign a UK based contract with Netjets Staff Management
You live in a european country ( not UK or Portugal)
You are taxed at source at a 20% rate, witheld on your pay slip
You pay NHS in UK circa 5000€/ year
You receive your work schedule by Netjets Transportes Aeros
You receive a statement from the portuguese authorities on how much taxes were paid on your behalf in portugal.

What you do or not do with all this is as always up to you. Polemics and rumours can go , the lawyers have opinions, remember they are only advisors, only a judge can rule; so until a courtcase eventually shows up from an individual. It is like this...

Met some Net Jets pilots yesterday in Luton at the Day's in Hotel during breakfast. They were al very happy working for Net Jets.

Well you missed me but then again I had checked out at 3.45 that morning... I am happy though.

I applied in early March and received an identical message. I was contacted for telephone screening on March 26th.

However, having been told by the screener that I would be contacted for interview, nothing so far.

Were you offered an interview date? If so, you'll receive information from Netjets closer to that date.

Does anybody know if netjets has plans for new gateway cities?

yep ! Graz, Salzburg, Klagenfurt and Innsbruck are coming next !

Well, Sydney fits the requirements and there's a few of us who wouldn't mind living there. (Although, Brisbane would be better).

It would work for the long range aircraft.

Nonemmet got the same message in early March and had telephone screening. Was wondering if anyone else has applied recently and got telephone screening.

Anyone who was at LBG end of March hear anything yet?

@ Austrian71: "yep ! Graz, Salzburg, Klagenfurt and Innsbruck are coming next !"
Are you serious? How would you know? Is this posted on the NJE web page?

...relax mate, I adapted to the (british) humour already - no, nothing is official, but some rumours are about graz as a possible new gateway.

Was just looking for a bit more info on whats involved while away on the 6 day tour. Am guessing you are not subject to ftl's as per airlines but are there any limits to duty hours (whats the longest typical duty period)?
What about downtime ,is there any kind of garunteed minimum rest? would you get the chance to hit the gym (assuming the hotels used have them) even once or twice during the tour?
Finally what about overall fatigue,be particularly interested to know how ex airline guys find NJE compares in that respect.

Appreciate there's a few ?s there but have read alot of the threads on NJE and this is one area am not too sure about so would be thankful for any feedback -cheers!

Jetwings,

We are subject to INAC's (Portugal CAA) FTLs. So yes, we do have limits! The minimum rest is 11 hours. There's other bits and pieces but it depends on when you started, how many sectors, how many time zones you crossed etc. 55 hours per tour. Note, your airline to the aircraft does not count for the 55 hours but (now) it (Day 1) does influence Day 2. It is a lot better than it used to be.

It's rare for me (1 of 1,000) to do much more than 10 hours duty these days, although, 12 hour duty isn't uncommon in Summer.

Again, depending on your day and the hotel, you *should* be able to get to the gym at least once per tour. It does also depend on your motivation.

You do get tired (assuming not crossing a lot of time zones) for sure, but sometimes you do just have to say "no" to meeting up with your colleagues or hit the sack early.

Jetwings

Sounds like you view this as a private operation which isn't really the case. It's a commercial operation that operates biz jets, but is organized and run along similar lines to an airline.


Personal view, but I think the INAC rules we operate to (as do TAP and Portugalia airlines) are much better than say, the CAA ones. Things like max weekly duty and max number of night service periods etc are all very conservative. The only area they fall down in is in long range, were the current ones are not particularly well thought out regarding time zone changes. However they should all be updated soon if INAC get it sorted....hope springs eternal!

Again from a personal perspective, with NetJets I've often been tired at the end of a busy day but never really fatigued.


Regrettably, I have yet to find any of the gyms but I am told on good authority that they do exist.....

Cheers

You know where the bar is though.


Only for the consumption of cool drink post flight. Of course.

harsh, very harsh.....hic

Im 18, have started uni (reaching end of 1st year) but would really like to 'drop-out' and begin flight training.

NetJets seems like a fantasic oppertunity but would i be considered too young at this stage to be a successful applicant?

cheers for any responses

I am not on the recruiting team, esp the team sorting the cadet scheme but *anecdotally*, quitting a course isn't viewed favourably. Reason, there's now a question about whether or not you'd stick with a full time aviation course.

I could be wrong.

Jimmy, there was a big discussion recently here about age (lack of it) and the chance of success with the cadet scheme. The general view and once again, anecdotally, the average age of successful candidates is ~27 years old. One thing to note, if you fail at Stage 2 or Stage 3, then you cannot reapply for the NJE cadet scheme. (That restriction doesn't apply if you then go on to get the hours for direct entry)

So, finish your degree. If you do decide to quit, get some gainful employment in an area that will help you gain suitable experience for NJE (or airlines).
You could consider going part time with your degree and get a job. You'll earn some money, get some life experience and get a degree.

How do I stand then, 43 years old, 2100 hrs on 737EFIS (2400 hrs TT) and 18 years as a bobby, relevant life experience or too old for the role?

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