How Pi***d Am I At Egnatia Greece
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 10
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From: Ho Chi Minh City
Egnatia - find out the facts!
A friend of mine instructs there and she couldn't do more for the students! They have more a/c than instructors so can cope with one going tech.
Don't believe all this bulls**t about CPL in a week. I did mine on a complex single - 15 hours and it took 4 weeks with Cabair, one of the leading UK schools. It was a flight every other day but there is a lot of ground study required for both the CPL and IR and most people don't realise this, so study when not flying. Once you start the IR you will be glad of a days breather - it's demanding!
Go speak to people for yourself and see what it is really like!
Everyone slags OFT on this forum also but I did most of my initial training with them and the instructors are very knowledgable and happy to help. You will get messed around a little by most flight schools including Uk ones!
Best of luck with your studies.
Simon Mangnall
Flight Instructor with a UK School.
Don't believe all this bulls**t about CPL in a week. I did mine on a complex single - 15 hours and it took 4 weeks with Cabair, one of the leading UK schools. It was a flight every other day but there is a lot of ground study required for both the CPL and IR and most people don't realise this, so study when not flying. Once you start the IR you will be glad of a days breather - it's demanding!
Go speak to people for yourself and see what it is really like!
Everyone slags OFT on this forum also but I did most of my initial training with them and the instructors are very knowledgable and happy to help. You will get messed around a little by most flight schools including Uk ones!
Best of luck with your studies.
Simon Mangnall
Flight Instructor with a UK School.
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 65
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From: England
Easy to have more aircraft than instructors when only 1 instructor that can fly the planes! i had to share my cfi with two other students and only got to fly 2 or 3 days a week due to that!
i expect cpl to take longer in uk due weather, but it was 90deg and cavok every day in greece,,,, and only 1 twin, that went tech for 2days. thats fine in the uk when you can go home and do other things, but when your in greece paying for accomidation and food away from home and got nothing to do but sit in the school all day doing nothing its crap, and then the weekend hits and you cant fly again until monday because the one cfi they had there flying the twin did not work weekends.
sorry but its just not upto speed there yet.
i expect cpl to take longer in uk due weather, but it was 90deg and cavok every day in greece,,,, and only 1 twin, that went tech for 2days. thats fine in the uk when you can go home and do other things, but when your in greece paying for accomidation and food away from home and got nothing to do but sit in the school all day doing nothing its crap, and then the weekend hits and you cant fly again until monday because the one cfi they had there flying the twin did not work weekends.
sorry but its just not upto speed there yet.
Joined: Aug 2024
Posts: 7
Likes: 0
From: Greece
Very bad behaviour from Egnatia
Unethical Practices: The academy holds meetings to strategize how to take more money from you. They’ll schedule flights when they know you’re on vacation, ensuring you miss them and have to pay penalties. It’s a never-ending cycle of them finding new ways to drag out your training and empty your wallet.
. Decline in Instructor Quality: The best instructors have left the academy, and many of the current ones were just students themselves not too long ago. The quality of training has plummeted as a result.
. Aircraft and Airport Mismanagement: While it may seem like having a lot of aircraft and their own airports is a good thing, it’s actually a disadvantage. These factors only lead to more wasted time and money, especially during IFR training, where you’re constantly shuffled back and forth to Kavala.
. Hidden Fees and Extra Charges: They’ll hit you with all sorts of hidden fees—whether it’s for additional ground school sessions, unexpected exam fees, or surprise maintenance costs on aircraft. None of this is made clear when you sign up.
. Poor Communication: The administration is terrible at communicating with students. You’re often left in the dark about your training schedule, and any complaints or concerns are either ignored or brushed off.
. Unreliable Scheduling: They regularly cancel or reschedule flights at the last minute without any explanation, making it impossible to plan your time effectively. This leads to further delays in completing your training.
. Limited Support for International Students: If you’re coming from abroad, don’t expect any help from the academy. You’re left to figure out housing, transportation, and even basic living arrangements on your own.
. Overcrowded Training Facilities: The facilities are overcrowded, with too many students and not enough aircraft or instructors. This leads to long wait times for flights and limited access to simulators.
. Lack of Accountability: The academy takes no responsibility for their shortcomings. If something goes wrong, they’ll find a way to blame it on you, even if it’s their fault.
and i can write more than this points
. Decline in Instructor Quality: The best instructors have left the academy, and many of the current ones were just students themselves not too long ago. The quality of training has plummeted as a result.
. Aircraft and Airport Mismanagement: While it may seem like having a lot of aircraft and their own airports is a good thing, it’s actually a disadvantage. These factors only lead to more wasted time and money, especially during IFR training, where you’re constantly shuffled back and forth to Kavala.
. Hidden Fees and Extra Charges: They’ll hit you with all sorts of hidden fees—whether it’s for additional ground school sessions, unexpected exam fees, or surprise maintenance costs on aircraft. None of this is made clear when you sign up.
. Poor Communication: The administration is terrible at communicating with students. You’re often left in the dark about your training schedule, and any complaints or concerns are either ignored or brushed off.
. Unreliable Scheduling: They regularly cancel or reschedule flights at the last minute without any explanation, making it impossible to plan your time effectively. This leads to further delays in completing your training.
. Limited Support for International Students: If you’re coming from abroad, don’t expect any help from the academy. You’re left to figure out housing, transportation, and even basic living arrangements on your own.
. Overcrowded Training Facilities: The facilities are overcrowded, with too many students and not enough aircraft or instructors. This leads to long wait times for flights and limited access to simulators.
. Lack of Accountability: The academy takes no responsibility for their shortcomings. If something goes wrong, they’ll find a way to blame it on you, even if it’s their fault.
and i can write more than this points
Joined: Aug 2024
Posts: 7
Likes: 0
From: Greece
Bad experiences with Egnatia
What i received from students from different periods of study:
1. Wizz Air Cadet Priority: The academy prioritizes Wizz Air cadets over others. This means you might only get to fly a handful of times each month, dragging out your training to over 36 months. Many of us finished way later than promised—some after nearly three years.
2. Constant Money Demands: Be ready to shell out an extra 15k-20k euros beyond the official price. They take all your money within the first 9 months, asking for €12,500 every two months. After that, they’ll continue demanding more for various “reasons.”
3. Stressful Training Program: The training is designed to be stressful, forcing you to pay more. Their “Special Report” program makes you repeat flights if your performance isn’t up to their standards, costing you €300 per hour on the DV20 and €650 per hour on the DA42. With over 200 flight hours logged, repeating flights makes no sense—it’s just a money grab.
4. Unstructured and Inflexible Training: The program isn’t tailored to your needs; instead, it feels like they’re constantly setting you up to fail just so they can charge you more. The schedule is chaotic, and they often delay your training with no valid reason.
5. Terrible Living Conditions: Kavala is not a good place to stay, especially for Muslim students. There’s nothing to do, no halal food options, and anything you need requires a two-hour trip to Thessaloniki. Getting home is a nightmare too, with no direct flights and much higher travel costs from Thessaloniki.
6. Unethical Practices: The academy holds meetings to strategize how to take more money from you. They’ll schedule flights when they know you’re on vacation, ensuring you miss them and have to pay penalties. It’s a never-ending cycle of them finding new ways to drag out your training and empty your wallet.
7. Decline in Instructor Quality: The best instructors have left the academy, and many of the current ones were just students themselves not too long ago. The quality of training has plummeted as a result.
8. Aircraft and Airport Mismanagement: While it may seem like having a lot of aircraft and their own airports is a good thing, it’s actually a disadvantage. These factors only lead to more wasted time and money, especially during IFR training, where you’re constantly shuffled back and forth to Kavala.
9. Hidden Fees and Extra Charges: They’ll hit you with all sorts of hidden fees—whether it’s for additional ground school sessions, unexpected exam fees, or surprise maintenance costs on aircraft. None of this is made clear when you sign up.
10. Poor Communication: The administration is terrible at communicating with students. You’re often left in the dark about your training schedule, and any complaints or concerns are either ignored or brushed off.
11. Unreliable Scheduling: They regularly cancel or reschedule flights at the last minute without any explanation, making it impossible to plan your time effectively. This leads to further delays in completing your training.
12. Limited Support for International Students: If you’re coming from abroad, don’t expect any help from the academy. You’re left to figure out housing, transportation, and even basic living arrangements on your own.
13. Overcrowded Training Facilities: The facilities are overcrowded, with too many students and not enough aircraft or instructors. This leads to long wait times for flights and limited access to simulators.
14. Lack of Accountability: The academy takes no responsibility for their shortcomings. If something goes wrong, they’ll find a way to blame it on you, even if it’s their fault.
1. Wizz Air Cadet Priority: The academy prioritizes Wizz Air cadets over others. This means you might only get to fly a handful of times each month, dragging out your training to over 36 months. Many of us finished way later than promised—some after nearly three years.
2. Constant Money Demands: Be ready to shell out an extra 15k-20k euros beyond the official price. They take all your money within the first 9 months, asking for €12,500 every two months. After that, they’ll continue demanding more for various “reasons.”
3. Stressful Training Program: The training is designed to be stressful, forcing you to pay more. Their “Special Report” program makes you repeat flights if your performance isn’t up to their standards, costing you €300 per hour on the DV20 and €650 per hour on the DA42. With over 200 flight hours logged, repeating flights makes no sense—it’s just a money grab.
4. Unstructured and Inflexible Training: The program isn’t tailored to your needs; instead, it feels like they’re constantly setting you up to fail just so they can charge you more. The schedule is chaotic, and they often delay your training with no valid reason.
5. Terrible Living Conditions: Kavala is not a good place to stay, especially for Muslim students. There’s nothing to do, no halal food options, and anything you need requires a two-hour trip to Thessaloniki. Getting home is a nightmare too, with no direct flights and much higher travel costs from Thessaloniki.
6. Unethical Practices: The academy holds meetings to strategize how to take more money from you. They’ll schedule flights when they know you’re on vacation, ensuring you miss them and have to pay penalties. It’s a never-ending cycle of them finding new ways to drag out your training and empty your wallet.
7. Decline in Instructor Quality: The best instructors have left the academy, and many of the current ones were just students themselves not too long ago. The quality of training has plummeted as a result.
8. Aircraft and Airport Mismanagement: While it may seem like having a lot of aircraft and their own airports is a good thing, it’s actually a disadvantage. These factors only lead to more wasted time and money, especially during IFR training, where you’re constantly shuffled back and forth to Kavala.
9. Hidden Fees and Extra Charges: They’ll hit you with all sorts of hidden fees—whether it’s for additional ground school sessions, unexpected exam fees, or surprise maintenance costs on aircraft. None of this is made clear when you sign up.
10. Poor Communication: The administration is terrible at communicating with students. You’re often left in the dark about your training schedule, and any complaints or concerns are either ignored or brushed off.
11. Unreliable Scheduling: They regularly cancel or reschedule flights at the last minute without any explanation, making it impossible to plan your time effectively. This leads to further delays in completing your training.
12. Limited Support for International Students: If you’re coming from abroad, don’t expect any help from the academy. You’re left to figure out housing, transportation, and even basic living arrangements on your own.
13. Overcrowded Training Facilities: The facilities are overcrowded, with too many students and not enough aircraft or instructors. This leads to long wait times for flights and limited access to simulators.
14. Lack of Accountability: The academy takes no responsibility for their shortcomings. If something goes wrong, they’ll find a way to blame it on you, even if it’s their fault.
Joined: Aug 2024
Posts: 7
Likes: 0
From: Greece
Egnatia’s Priority for Wizz Air Cadets
Egnatia Aviation focuses entirely on Wizz Air cadets, leaving independent students with limited resources. I personally went through months with only five flights! This bias drags your training to 36+ months, leaving you frustrated and demotivated
Joined: Aug 2024
Posts: 7
Likes: 0
From: Greece
My 36-Month Nightmare at Egnatia: A Warning to Aspiring Pilots
Let me share my story of how Egnatia Aviation turned my dream into a struggle. I started with high hopes, thinking I’d complete my training in 18-24 months. Instead, I spent over 3 years just trying to get my hours. Here’s what happened
Joined: Jun 2025
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
From: Amsterdam
What i received from students from different periods of study:
1. Wizz Air Cadet Priority: The academy prioritizes Wizz Air cadets over others. This means you might only get to fly a handful of times each month, dragging out your training to over 36 months. Many of us finished way later than promised—some after nearly three years.
2. Constant Money Demands: Be ready to shell out an extra 15k-20k euros beyond the official price. They take all your money within the first 9 months, asking for €12,500 every two months. After that, they’ll continue demanding more for various “reasons.”
3. Stressful Training Program: The training is designed to be stressful, forcing you to pay more. Their “Special Report” program makes you repeat flights if your performance isn’t up to their standards, costing you €300 per hour on the DV20 and €650 per hour on the DA42. With over 200 flight hours logged, repeating flights makes no sense—it’s just a money grab.
4. Unstructured and Inflexible Training: The program isn’t tailored to your needs; instead, it feels like they’re constantly setting you up to fail just so they can charge you more. The schedule is chaotic, and they often delay your training with no valid reason.
5. Terrible Living Conditions: Kavala is not a good place to stay, especially for Muslim students. There’s nothing to do, no halal food options, and anything you need requires a two-hour trip to Thessaloniki. Getting home is a nightmare too, with no direct flights and much higher travel costs from Thessaloniki.
6. Unethical Practices: The academy holds meetings to strategize how to take more money from you. They’ll schedule flights when they know you’re on vacation, ensuring you miss them and have to pay penalties. It’s a never-ending cycle of them finding new ways to drag out your training and empty your wallet.
7. Decline in Instructor Quality: The best instructors have left the academy, and many of the current ones were just students themselves not too long ago. The quality of training has plummeted as a result.
8. Aircraft and Airport Mismanagement: While it may seem like having a lot of aircraft and their own airports is a good thing, it’s actually a disadvantage. These factors only lead to more wasted time and money, especially during IFR training, where you’re constantly shuffled back and forth to Kavala.
9. Hidden Fees and Extra Charges: They’ll hit you with all sorts of hidden fees—whether it’s for additional ground school sessions, unexpected exam fees, or surprise maintenance costs on aircraft. None of this is made clear when you sign up.
10. Poor Communication: The administration is terrible at communicating with students. You’re often left in the dark about your training schedule, and any complaints or concerns are either ignored or brushed off.
11. Unreliable Scheduling: They regularly cancel or reschedule flights at the last minute without any explanation, making it impossible to plan your time effectively. This leads to further delays in completing your training.
12. Limited Support for International Students: If you’re coming from abroad, don’t expect any help from the academy. You’re left to figure out housing, transportation, and even basic living arrangements on your own.
13. Overcrowded Training Facilities: The facilities are overcrowded, with too many students and not enough aircraft or instructors. This leads to long wait times for flights and limited access to simulators.
14. Lack of Accountability: The academy takes no responsibility for their shortcomings. If something goes wrong, they’ll find a way to blame it on you, even if it’s their fault.
1. Wizz Air Cadet Priority: The academy prioritizes Wizz Air cadets over others. This means you might only get to fly a handful of times each month, dragging out your training to over 36 months. Many of us finished way later than promised—some after nearly three years.
2. Constant Money Demands: Be ready to shell out an extra 15k-20k euros beyond the official price. They take all your money within the first 9 months, asking for €12,500 every two months. After that, they’ll continue demanding more for various “reasons.”
3. Stressful Training Program: The training is designed to be stressful, forcing you to pay more. Their “Special Report” program makes you repeat flights if your performance isn’t up to their standards, costing you €300 per hour on the DV20 and €650 per hour on the DA42. With over 200 flight hours logged, repeating flights makes no sense—it’s just a money grab.
4. Unstructured and Inflexible Training: The program isn’t tailored to your needs; instead, it feels like they’re constantly setting you up to fail just so they can charge you more. The schedule is chaotic, and they often delay your training with no valid reason.
5. Terrible Living Conditions: Kavala is not a good place to stay, especially for Muslim students. There’s nothing to do, no halal food options, and anything you need requires a two-hour trip to Thessaloniki. Getting home is a nightmare too, with no direct flights and much higher travel costs from Thessaloniki.
6. Unethical Practices: The academy holds meetings to strategize how to take more money from you. They’ll schedule flights when they know you’re on vacation, ensuring you miss them and have to pay penalties. It’s a never-ending cycle of them finding new ways to drag out your training and empty your wallet.
7. Decline in Instructor Quality: The best instructors have left the academy, and many of the current ones were just students themselves not too long ago. The quality of training has plummeted as a result.
8. Aircraft and Airport Mismanagement: While it may seem like having a lot of aircraft and their own airports is a good thing, it’s actually a disadvantage. These factors only lead to more wasted time and money, especially during IFR training, where you’re constantly shuffled back and forth to Kavala.
9. Hidden Fees and Extra Charges: They’ll hit you with all sorts of hidden fees—whether it’s for additional ground school sessions, unexpected exam fees, or surprise maintenance costs on aircraft. None of this is made clear when you sign up.
10. Poor Communication: The administration is terrible at communicating with students. You’re often left in the dark about your training schedule, and any complaints or concerns are either ignored or brushed off.
11. Unreliable Scheduling: They regularly cancel or reschedule flights at the last minute without any explanation, making it impossible to plan your time effectively. This leads to further delays in completing your training.
12. Limited Support for International Students: If you’re coming from abroad, don’t expect any help from the academy. You’re left to figure out housing, transportation, and even basic living arrangements on your own.
13. Overcrowded Training Facilities: The facilities are overcrowded, with too many students and not enough aircraft or instructors. This leads to long wait times for flights and limited access to simulators.
14. Lack of Accountability: The academy takes no responsibility for their shortcomings. If something goes wrong, they’ll find a way to blame it on you, even if it’s their fault.
Last edited by Caesar01; 24th August 2025 at 13:27.
