Yellow Shirts
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Yellow Shirts
It seems that my home base (Gamston) has now jumped onto the band wagon by insisting on all pilots wearing yellow bibs when walking across the apron on the grounds of "safety".
How does this improve "safety" ?
Am I less likely to be run over by a pilot who is supposed to have A1 vision and driving a multi decibel machine, or survive this incident just because I am wearing a luminous vest?
Curious on the actual accident rate regarding being mown down whilst walking across the apron, can anyone advise?
Sounds like another "Nanny State" rule coming in just because the next airfield is doing it as well rather than actually sitting down and thinking it through.
I will of course go with the rank and file and wear my yeller coat with everyone else after my little rant,
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How does this improve "safety" ?
Am I less likely to be run over by a pilot who is supposed to have A1 vision and driving a multi decibel machine, or survive this incident just because I am wearing a luminous vest?
Curious on the actual accident rate regarding being mown down whilst walking across the apron, can anyone advise?
Sounds like another "Nanny State" rule coming in just because the next airfield is doing it as well rather than actually sitting down and thinking it through.
I will of course go with the rank and file and wear my yeller coat with everyone else after my little rant,
B
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A lot of places you can't just go wandering across the apron anyway - you have to route around the edge till you get level with the stand you're heading for. This means you're likely to get mown down by the ground vehicles. Now that's when you need those little yellow jackets start to make sense!
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This is Health and Safety at it's most ludicrous. OK - major airports with lots of vehicles scurrying about between sites and aircraft - good idea. But the only vehicles airside at Gamston are the bowser and the aircraft tug.
If people are stupid enough to walk in front of a moving aircraft then they shouldn't be airside in the first place, and the only people airside at Gamston are people who fly to or from there who know what it's like being around aircraft - on what basis or incident have they decided on this farcical ruling for such a small airfield - or do they have delusions of grandeur!
This is obviously just another case of unnecessary bandwagon jumping. It's this sort of blanket rulemaking that starts the ball rolling everywhere until they gather momentum and become the norm. End result - someone then makes it into a law that means the owner with his own strip has to wear one when he walks between the gate and his aircraft. LUDICROUS
If people are stupid enough to walk in front of a moving aircraft then they shouldn't be airside in the first place, and the only people airside at Gamston are people who fly to or from there who know what it's like being around aircraft - on what basis or incident have they decided on this farcical ruling for such a small airfield - or do they have delusions of grandeur!
This is obviously just another case of unnecessary bandwagon jumping. It's this sort of blanket rulemaking that starts the ball rolling everywhere until they gather momentum and become the norm. End result - someone then makes it into a law that means the owner with his own strip has to wear one when he walks between the gate and his aircraft. LUDICROUS
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Does the jacket have to be worn in the "conventional" manner?
Why not try it as a sort of turban one day, around one leg the lext, as an armband after that etc etc etc until management is forced to add a clause specifying in legalese exactly how the jacket is to be worn.
Once they have done this, ask them if they have insurance for ill-fitting jackets preventing access to pockets containing mobile phones when emergency phone calls might occur and by this circumstance be missed.
Once this is done, request management to test every employee for colour-blindness - even secretarial staff who don't go near the ramp. You want to be sure everyone can actually see the yellow colour. Mention "xanthocyanopsis", that should have them diving for a dictionary.
After this, request the jackets be dry-cleaned every week to keep them in their high state of visibility. Ask management to provide additinal jackets to fill in for those away being cleaned.
Similarly request management to put emergency supplies of jackets at strategic locations in case someone loses a jacket during work.
Also request management to put a "Jacket-tracking" system in (satellite based) to permit simultaneous tracking of every employee/worker wearing a jacket on the airport to further enhance safety.
Ask the OHS supervisor to give weekly lectures on the benefits of wearing jackets, both at work and outside the workplace.
I'm sure you can think of more ways to make the management heartily sick of yellow safety jackets whilst having some fun at the same time. My feeling is the individual who first thought up this idea didn't have much else to do.
Why not try it as a sort of turban one day, around one leg the lext, as an armband after that etc etc etc until management is forced to add a clause specifying in legalese exactly how the jacket is to be worn.
Once they have done this, ask them if they have insurance for ill-fitting jackets preventing access to pockets containing mobile phones when emergency phone calls might occur and by this circumstance be missed.
Once this is done, request management to test every employee for colour-blindness - even secretarial staff who don't go near the ramp. You want to be sure everyone can actually see the yellow colour. Mention "xanthocyanopsis", that should have them diving for a dictionary.
After this, request the jackets be dry-cleaned every week to keep them in their high state of visibility. Ask management to provide additinal jackets to fill in for those away being cleaned.
Similarly request management to put emergency supplies of jackets at strategic locations in case someone loses a jacket during work.
Also request management to put a "Jacket-tracking" system in (satellite based) to permit simultaneous tracking of every employee/worker wearing a jacket on the airport to further enhance safety.
Ask the OHS supervisor to give weekly lectures on the benefits of wearing jackets, both at work and outside the workplace.
I'm sure you can think of more ways to make the management heartily sick of yellow safety jackets whilst having some fun at the same time. My feeling is the individual who first thought up this idea didn't have much else to do.
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Oh come on you anti establishment knee jerk
w*nkers: Just what is the problem with picking up a ten quid yellow reflective jacket and wearing it when you are air side. If you have pax with you they're 'covered ' by your yellow jacket, if they are not with you they have no right to be there anyway .
There has got to be some sort of control:
I personally would be happy with the requirement for a yellow jacket with reg no on it as well.
Happy and safe flying with no schizophreniic pax behind the bulkhead door.
w*nkers: Just what is the problem with picking up a ten quid yellow reflective jacket and wearing it when you are air side. If you have pax with you they're 'covered ' by your yellow jacket, if they are not with you they have no right to be there anyway .
There has got to be some sort of control:
I personally would be happy with the requirement for a yellow jacket with reg no on it as well.
Happy and safe flying with no schizophreniic pax behind the bulkhead door.
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Cusco
As part of the aviation 'establishment' I found your description rather amusing
However - I don't think anyone minds at places where there is a risk. The airfield in question in this debate is hardly the high risk environment that the likes of LHR, LGW, MAN etc. is (They don't even get that many visitors compared to the average GA airfield because the caterings non existent )
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As part of the aviation 'establishment' I found your description rather amusing
However - I don't think anyone minds at places where there is a risk. The airfield in question in this debate is hardly the high risk environment that the likes of LHR, LGW, MAN etc. is (They don't even get that many visitors compared to the average GA airfield because the caterings non existent
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How about all ground vehicles being limited to 2 mph and having someone walking in front with a red flag?
Better still, flying little planes is dangerous so let's ban it!
Posting on New Year's eve... sad... better go off line now and go and see all my 100s of friends!
Have a good 'un and see you in 2001
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Better still, flying little planes is dangerous so let's ban it!
Posting on New Year's eve... sad... better go off line now and go and see all my 100s of friends!
Have a good 'un and see you in 2001
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Hey Cusco,
What kind of Nazi are you...?
Yellow jacket with reg no? What happens to renters? Do they have to buy a jacket for each aircraft, or will jacket rental be included with the aircraft...???
How about helmets with flashing beacons, identity cards, and signal flares to be let off every ten yards!
My old instructor told me that anyone walking into a spinning prop just improves the average IQ of the group.
Darwin in action!
What kind of Nazi are you...?
Yellow jacket with reg no? What happens to renters? Do they have to buy a jacket for each aircraft, or will jacket rental be included with the aircraft...???
How about helmets with flashing beacons, identity cards, and signal flares to be let off every ten yards!
My old instructor told me that anyone walking into a spinning prop just improves the average IQ of the group.
Darwin in action!
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Well I was right about people being more at risk from ground vehicles than aircraft: only case of injury I've heard of was a pilot quite badly injured by same.
Incidentally, heard a real good reason for wearing jackets: since airline pax don't wear them, if someone is seen wandering round the apron without one, they know to go and round him up because he must be an escaped airline passenger! Npw is that arse-about-face thinking or what?
As for Gamston, must be delusions of grandeur, or is the next stage in this bureacratic nightmare the excuse that the aerodrome's insurers are making it a condition of cover?
Incidentally, heard a real good reason for wearing jackets: since airline pax don't wear them, if someone is seen wandering round the apron without one, they know to go and round him up because he must be an escaped airline passenger! Npw is that arse-about-face thinking or what?
As for Gamston, must be delusions of grandeur, or is the next stage in this bureacratic nightmare the excuse that the aerodrome's insurers are making it a condition of cover?
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AHA!
Fatal flaw in your logic...!
If they are kept in the plane, how do you go to get them..?
The operators will have to employ "jacket couriers" to run back and forth to the planes.
This will cause rental rates to go up, and eventually the high prices will put everyone out of business!
Now I see your cunning plan...!
Fatal flaw in your logic...!
If they are kept in the plane, how do you go to get them..?
The operators will have to employ "jacket couriers" to run back and forth to the planes.
This will cause rental rates to go up, and eventually the high prices will put everyone out of business!
Now I see your cunning plan...!
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Nice one Nimbus.
Before I got my own share in an A/c I rented from a flying school/Club which had an office where all the documentation, aircraft keys etc. were kept.
Don't know your circumstances, don't really care either but p'raps yellow vests could be kept with a/c keys.
Failing that you could always buy a yellow jacket.
Or are you leading a Luddite revolution?
Before I got my own share in an A/c I rented from a flying school/Club which had an office where all the documentation, aircraft keys etc. were kept.
Don't know your circumstances, don't really care either but p'raps yellow vests could be kept with a/c keys.
Failing that you could always buy a yellow jacket.
Or are you leading a Luddite revolution?