This is an interesting and important thread.
Sadly the type of slanging we have seen on other forums has spread onto this one, which is inapropriate and will be deleted when I can remember how...I've not had this problem on this forum before.

Now, back to instructor shortages....

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CFI, your ability as a moderator is I am afraid called into question. I note that you deleted my entire retort to someone who was 'slanging' me, but you left his original post intact! Sorry, but your 'editing' is misguided, I suggest you re-read the offending response from 'autobrakemedium', your apology should be posted on here for all to see. I am most angry at your handling of this situation, which is plain to most that I am not the offending party, but the offended party.

Come on Girls - stop hair pulling. We're all friends really.

Notice SFT are adverising in this weeks Flight as is a school in West Wales (handy for me that!) and I have been approached by two other schools offering me work.

This in the week that I was almost (I joke not) sacked for smashing the wing tip strobe light whist teaching a new student to taxi. It wouldn't of hurt so much had the strobes not been u/s for the last 6 months! Had to count to ten about that one I can tell you!

WWW

Hi Guys, I have only just joined, what a brill site!

I have BCPL and am soon to do CPL/IR upgrade, however I am wondering wether or not
to do AFI instead.

Is it possible to earn a living instructing? I hear so many different stories

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This forum was not intended as a place for people to trade personal remarks and attempt to ridicule others. Feel free to email me with any constructive criticism!

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Potentially silly question, probably should be in Wannabes, but since the topic is instructor shortage, here goes...
Would it be possible for a reasonably experienced pilot from the colonies, with about 600hrs instruction time, come across to the UK (born there, so off the high horses) and get a job as an instructor while studying for the ATPL exams, and still survive on the income?
I can already convert my ATPL to a UK CPL, according to CAP54, but would the flying schools employ someone like me that they know would leave within six months?
Thanks in advance for any reasoned replies, even from 3aids, should you deign to answer!
skyvan

CFI, I agree completely with you, your apology?

Skyvan, thank you for inviting me to reply to your request for information. Sure yiu can convert your colonial ATPL to our CPL, but you will be required to sit the technical exams, and pass the GFT. You will then have to pay the licence issue fees etc. You will get a UK instructor rating on the strength of your overseas one, after a test of course, the UK is the only first world country I know of that recognises overseas instructors, so there are good points in our system. It maybe worth considering for you as the technical exams are quite a bit simplier than the navs. You should be able to pick up an AFI position here, it all depends on whether you consider it worth it as they are usually rather poorly paid. Maybe WWW can point you in the direction of a decent flying school to approach, he appears to have his finger on the pulse of UK schools.

Hey - you got the the license I got the job offers, with your experience I know people who'll bite your arm off - even in winter. WWW

ps but you don't want to come and work in my sharkpit - I'd walk tomorrow if I didn't live next door.

I'm also quite curious about the current market in the UK for instructor &/or pilot positions and what I'd have to do about converting my Oz instructor rating to the equivalent here in the UK.

Basically I have about 2300 hrs instructing from ab-initio, PPL, CPL & M/E IFR + some other bits like aero's & theory. Any idea on what hoops I'd have to jump through & chance of a (possibly) temporary position?

BTW, I'm already in the licence conversion process so that's not an issue(unless these bloody exams become a problem!). Information welcome.

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Don't mess with the red switches.

3 aids and WWW
Thanks for the replies, truly Pprune is made by gentlemen such as yourselves.
One last qestion, what can an instructor expect to earn, either as a part-timer, or in a full-time post?
Thanks in advance.

A common rate is 10 pounds per hour the hobbs meter is ticking plus a retainer of say 250 pounds per month. Hours depends on the school, weather, location etc but as the shortage grows the numbers wanting to get trained remains unabated...

WWW

Great thread, and good to know that there are opportunities for instructors back in the old country. (A nice change from when I left in '93!) I hope the laws of supply and demand will mean that pay and conditions should improve accordingly.
This thread is being closed due to length, to be continued.


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