Instrument training - FAR question
 

I am working on my instrument rating in the US, and have 2 questions:

1) I understand that in order to log simulated instrument (hood) time, I need at least a PP in the right seat as safety. What about practice instrument approaches? The AIM (Chapter 4, paragraph 4-3-21) says nothing about requiring an instrument rating. But would this still be considered instrument training, and thereby require the safety?

2) If you can do the practice instrument approach as a non-instrument pilot, do you log simulated instrument time and the instrument approach?

Too many regulations for one man to remember at once!

Cheers...
-Plap

The reg is not that complicated. If you want to log simulated instrument time you must control the a/c solely by reference to the instruments (wear a hood or foggles). To do this you must have an appropriately rated safety pilot (category/class).

You can go out and fly practice approaches on your own but if you are not wearing a hood then you can't log them as instrument time.

Got it!
Chad McJannett
Sierra Academy of Aeronautics

I am sure you know, but anyway, I wouldn't advise trying this. See and Avoid doesn't work when you're fixated on the panel watching the needles dance. I know! http://www.pprune.org/ubb/NonCGI/redface.gif

In Canada this needs to be an IR rated instructor or CPL with IR, more than 500h TT and 50h in class. I don't know if the FARs have any specific requirement.

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Thanks, weasil and Code Blue. I found the answers in the FARs after a bit more searching.

-Plap
(FYI: I don't think I have the cojones to try a practice ILS without a safety, I was just curious. =))

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dont forget to get the safty pilot to sign your logbook after the flight.

There is no requirement to have the safety pilot sign your logbook, there is no requirement for a private or higher rated pilot to even carry their logbook with them when they fly.