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maximus610

28th Aug 2020 14:03

IRI with expired SEP

Let's assume the following scenario:
Valid B737 and IRI ratings with expired SEP/MEP and SPA/IR.
Is it enough to teach IR in sim (FNPT II) only as IRI with multi pilot IR?

Whopity

28th Aug 2020 14:46

In order to exercse the privileges of a Instructor Certificate you must be qualified to act as PIC of the aircraft. In the case of a FNPTII that would involve either a MEP or SEP Class rating. If you are teaching the IR you would be required to hold a relevant IR and of course a vald CRI(ME) if its for Multi Engine. The alternative is to be quatified as an STI.
FCL.915

Quote:

Applicants for the issue of or holders of an instructor certificate with privileges to conduct flight instruction in an aircraft shall:
(1) for licence training, hold at least the licence or, in the case of point FCL.900(c), the equivalent licence, for which flight instruction is to be given;
(2) for a rating training, hold the relevant rating or, in the case of point FCL.900(c), the equivalent rating, for which flight instruction is to be given;

(4) be entitled to act as PIC in the aircraft during such flight instruction.

maximus610

28th Aug 2020 15:36

Thanks Whopity for the info.
But what actually is 'relevant IR'?
According to appendix 8 (part-FCL) a holder of a MPA type rating (in our example B737) during a LPC also is getting credit for SE class rating IR. Or I didn't get the point?

Whopity

28th Aug 2020 19:30

If you are teaching SP IR then you need to have a valid SPIR. If you were teaching MP IR which I think would only occur on a Integrated MPL Course then you would have to have been checked as a MPL instructor on the Sim you instruct on.

Big Pistons Forever

28th Aug 2020 19:40

The test is a simple one and independent of any specific authority. Can I jump in to the airplane and fly it alone on the flight profile I am about to teach ? If the answer is no then you can't go

If you can't fly it you can't teach it

sixgee

28th Aug 2020 22:18

I think there is an anomaly in the rules here. An STI can teach in a simulator only, but I was told some time ago that a prerequisite to getting an STI was to have held an appropriate instructional qualification in the preceding three years. So you could have had an FI 4 years previously which you would have to renew in order to then gain an STI. If there was a medical issue then you (having been a ME instructor four years before) could, no matter what you did, ever get an STI.

Yet a 10 year lapsed STI could do appropriate refresher training and then regain their STI. Doesn’t make sense to me.

Whopity

29th Aug 2020 07:54

Lots of anomalies in the rules, they are after all typical European Bureaucratic garbage. Nobody ever thinks them out!

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