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gerpols 28th Feb 2020 17:11

Powerpoint presentation
 
Hi Ladies, Gents
Need some help quickly !
Anyone who can provide me with a power point presentation of how to fly the ILS, or fly a holding ?
It is required for an interview, and I am hoping someone has one on file.
Thanks a million.
Kindly,

[email protected]

Whopity 1st Mar 2020 09:47

Most people who have spent the time and effort to produce a presentation are reluctant to simply give it away to someone else.
Secondly, as someone who has run selection boards it was quite common for candidates to give a brief put together by someone else(usually commercial) and then fail to understand it. We recognised them because we had seen them before.
If its worth giving a brief, then its worth putting it together yourself, that way you should understand it and often in the process of doing it you learn something you didn't know.

gerpols 2nd Mar 2020 10:15

You have a great day Mr. Whopitty, and thanks for the help.
Luckily not everyone shares your opnion.

Genghis the Engineer 2nd Mar 2020 10:47


Originally Posted by Whopity (Post 10699668)
Most people who have spent the time and effort to produce a presentation are reluctant to simply give it away to someone else.
Secondly, as someone who has run selection boards it was quite common for candidates to give a brief put together by someone else(usually commercial) and then fail to understand it. We recognised them because we had seen them before.
If its worth giving a brief, then its worth putting it together yourself, that way you should understand it and often in the process of doing it you learn something you didn't know.

Not everybody shares Whopity's opinion, but I do. You can generally see right through people who haven't prepared their own material of this nature.

G

Whopity 2nd Mar 2020 10:51


Luckily not everyone shares your opnion.
But if the Interviewer does, you have just missed an opportunity.

justmaybe 2nd Mar 2020 18:13


Originally Posted by gerpols (Post 10700462)
You have a great day Mr. Whopitty, and thanks for the help.
Luckily not everyone shares your opnion.

Great attitude. I would love to be at the interview. Have a think about the old adage 'Don't shoot the messenger'!!

18greens 2nd Mar 2020 21:12

If you have been called for an interview at short notice, firstly congratulations, secondly explain you don't have a power point to hand but can happily draw out the theory on paper or whiteboard. They will understand and will enjoy the dynamic nature of the presentation. Use your ATPL notes as a starter.

As everyone else has said, explaining someone else's presentation is always a bit hollow , especially when they get you to explain what all the TLAs mean. They will see through you.

Good luck.

rarelyathome 2nd Mar 2020 21:26


Originally Posted by gerpols (Post 10700462)
You have a great day Mr. Whopitty, and thanks for the help.
Luckily not everyone shares your opnion.

What a shame they didn’t ask you to do a Human Factors presentation on personality traits.

safetypee 3rd Mar 2020 07:57

This issue reflects the modern 'instant answer' world.
Selecting and preparing your own material is an excellent method to improve learning, and from knowledge of 'know what' provides a basis of 'know how' - how to adapt a flight technique for different conditions.

Plagiarising presentations might be acceptable to examiners, but this approach could assume that the student has critical skills of knowing what and how to research. If not, and this is easily established, then the interview could fail because of weaknesses in thinking, opposed to poor ILS knowledge.

Thus if a student is unable or unwilling to research the subject, to prepare thoughts, then these weaknesses are more likely to fail an applicant than the lack of a presentation.
Select for aptitude, train for knowledge.

A glib answer of how to fly an ILS is to 'follow the FD'; perhaps that is the reality of modern aviation - until you do not have a FD.

gerpols 3rd Mar 2020 17:13

Ladies, Gents
I have flown many holdings, and much more ILS approaches.
When your 64 years of age, you have been around the block a few times.
Only thing is , I have never flown the power point presentation during the hold, followed by an ILS approach.
So, everyone relax, and realize you don`t have to be ashamed to ask your fellow aviators for help, every now and then !!
Thank you for the 3 colleague, who helped me with their power-point presentations.
Fly safe everyone.

BigEndBob 3rd Mar 2020 19:03

What's powerpoint?

I have loads of A4 paper.

Whopity 3rd Mar 2020 23:27

Paper is old fashioned

Asturias56 4th Mar 2020 07:29

and PowerPoint is hated ..................

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....805ece9a2f.gif

BigEndBob 4th Mar 2020 17:10


Originally Posted by Asturias56 (Post 10702158)
and PowerPoint is hated ..................

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....805ece9a2f.gif

Like every flying seminar i have been to. Just give us the book and lets go home.

BigEndBob 4th Mar 2020 17:11


Originally Posted by Whopity (Post 10701994)
Paper is old fashioned

Worth a thousand projector bulbs.

timprice 6th Mar 2020 20:12

Power point presentation
 
You are all missing the point!
Look how many lives can be saved sitting at the power point presentation, more time on ground far less risk,
especially if via on line chat room, no travel risk either.
If we didn't go to work look how many accidents/incidents we could save.

MechEngr 15th Jun 2023 20:31

Not sure about holding but Google might be your bud. It found this: https://slideplayer.com/slide/5251631/

While the request is somewhat rough, I feel for being tossed into the Powerpoint pot. It's like, "OK, You know your stuff, now be a graphics artist and entertaining speaker as well" to which I would prefer to reply as Bender from Futurama with "Bite my shiny metal ass."


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